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[–] Jtee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If lane 2 is closed ahead, and you're in lane 1, I think it's a jerk move to leave lane 1 to try to rush ahead a few cars and cut someone off when you need back into lane 1

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zip merge isn't cutting people off tho.

[–] Jtee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you erratically jump into my lane, barely a foot ahead of my car, you are cutting me off.

I flow with traffic and leave room for people to merge. But I people right behind me leave the lane and speed by to get one car ahead. It's pointless.

[–] unoriginalsin@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

If you erratically jump into my lane, barely a foot ahead of my car, you are cutting me off.

If you only left 16" of space in front of your car for me to merge into because you think you've got the moral high ground due to having merged sooner than needed, then you deserve to get cut off.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Youre letting your sense of "fairness" override good sense.

Using both of the available lanes and efficiently merging from two to one lanes at a designated point instead of at random is far safer and faster than people randomly merging from lane 2 into lane 1 when they are 34 cars back, or 16, or 5, or 105, each time stopping or slowing traffic in lane 2 and lane 1. Those people are being inconsiderate, unsafe, and inefficient. Stop blocking flowing traffic to merge poorly.

Use both lanes, especially if one is open. Dont merge early. Zipper merge at an expected and predictable point so traffic can flow safely instead of start and stop.

[–] Jtee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care about people merging who have been in the closing lane for some time, I was pretty sure the original reply was talking about the people who leave the flow of traffic to speed ahead when they know the lane will close. If you're already in flowing traffic is there a benefit to zooming ahead and cutting someone off?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, that's not wrong, unfair or at all "cutting someone off." Thats using the empty lane efficiently and safely to speed up traffic. Its the people ignoring an open lane, crawling along that are causing an issue. Its the people merging early out of the largely empty lane that causes an issue.

There is nothing wrong at all about using an empty lane in any context to zipper merge. You thinking it is wrong is literally wrong.

[–] Jtee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's being an asshole and thinking your shit matters more. I'm not sure what you're even arguing at this point. We're clearly agreeing that zipper merging is most effective, but if you leave a lane to cut back in 1 or 2 cars ahead, you're an asshole.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I fully disagree that its being an asshole, as does all drivers ed and traffic engineering.