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Israel's military suggested on Tuesday that the United Nations ask Hamas for fuel supplies after the U.N. agency providing aid to Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip warned it would have to halt operations on Wednesday night if no fuel was delivered.

The agency, known as UNRWA, posted its warning on social media on Tuesday. The Israel Defense Forces reposted it and said that Hamas militants have more than 500,000 litres of fuel in tanks inside besieged Gaza.

"Ask Hamas if you can have some," the IDF wrote.

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[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Disclamer! don't look for hidden meaning, I'm honestly currious. Why isn't Gaza supplied by sea yet ? Are those waters too shallow or something ? Iran and other Hammas allies could send them fuel, food etc by sea.
Also why are they digging those tunnels , can't the supplies be brought through as well ?
Edit: I don't mean secret military supplies, but rather humatiarian help that can go under official UN flag or similar organization .

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why isn’t Gaza supplied by sea yet

You'd have to shoot your way through the Israeli navy. And they have German submarines so, basically, forget it: They can shoot at you while you can't even see them. Ask US carrier group admirals about their experiences with those subs in training manoeuvres.

Also why are they digging those tunnels , can’t the supplies be brought through as well ?

The tunnels are Hamas-controlled and supplying Hamas isn't exactly the goal of the UN.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The tunnels are Hamas-controlled and supplying Hamas isn’t exactly the goal of the UN.

I meant basic supplies for civilians. Obviously UN won't supply Hammas but Hammas says they are the just guys so they could open the tunnel or two for UN.

You’d have to shoot your way through the Israeli navy.

I meant basic supplies for civilians which could go under UN flag. I admit that mentioning Iran etc was missleading into military support. But for offIcial UN mission, I somehow doubt that US, Nato or even Israeli navy would sink aNY ship that has blue helmets on the board on humanitarian mission.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ask US carrier group admirals about their experiences with those subs in training manoeuvres.

more info pls

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There have been multiple war games where German and Swedish subs on the "enemy" team have popped up within a few hundred metres of a US carrier, snapped a picture (which could have been a torpedo launch) and escaped again without being detected.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Gah can't find good English articles they're all talking about France or Sweden doing the same, but have a German one. And that's referring to Type 206 submarines who sneak on battery power instead of hydrogen, Israel's Dolphins are essentially a bit bigger Type 212s.

It's basically become a sport by now for NATO submarine crews to "sink" US carriers in exercises, kind of like a rite of passage for any new sub.