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Indigenous icon Buffy Sainte-Marie's identity was brought into question by a CBC investigation, her Piapot family says the accusations are "ignorant, colonial -- and racist."

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[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a time when I would have agreed with you. I now think that the problems we have in this world are because we've let the "small stuff" go until they've built into big balls of shit. Now our eyes are so focused on the big balls of shit that we not only don't see the other "small stuff" building up, we no longer recognize the "small things" at the centre.

We are not going to ever fix the big problems or prevent new ones without tearing things apart to get at the core. Selfishness, greed, and the desire for power over others are behind every major problem we've got, so everything we do to root those things out gets us one step closer to a better world.

The things you set aside as unworthy of attention are in fact the biggest problems we have. They are why the world is turning (has turned?) into a big ball of shit.

So this is not just a distraction, but the exposure on one of those who prefer us to keep our eyes covered. We need more of these investigations, not fewer and the investigations need to start earlier, before the ball of shit gets too big to handle.

We may have no more important social project on our plates than that of sorting out our colonial past and present to create a future for all, and this strikes at the heart of that project. This is not an entertainment story or a criminal story, but a story about deep, ongoing social injustice.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not even disagreeing with you tbh.
My initial comment was poorly worded, I'm just tired of the fourth estate pulling their punches when it comes to bigger issues.

The world's going to shit because we let megacorps and rich fucks steal from the people.
This story is more than a distraction, but it's also a distraction.
While we argue about whose blood should have been worthy to receive whatever grant money scraps, we're not paying attention to the class war that robs infinitely more wealth from every community.

On this story? Her tribe claims her as their own.
She should probably give money back to support other indigenous artists if she's not doing that already.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess were in at least partial agreement. I do think that this story would have been better if the class warfare had been more explicitly called out. As it stands, it's about one person's bad behaviour, leave the class struggle as a secondary character.

[–] DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca 4 points 1 year ago

@jadero @InEnduringGrowStrong

I understand what you are saying… the concern reported is essentially that ‘non-indigenous’ Buffy may have sucked up precious and very limited resources in a zero sum, dog-eat-dog arena without questioning why we accept a world in which support is so limited in the first place.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The things that's unclear to me still is if she even knew about it from early on.
Like... I know where I was born but only from what I've been told, as I have no memory of that time.
Reality could be much different than my understanding of it.

From what I understand, she was still raised by indigenousparents from that tribe, she still grew up on a reserve with most of the difficulties associated with it. She's been an activist of indigenous issues for longer than most people on lemmy have been alive.
She still grew up in her tribe's culture and as such I think her art is still representative of indigenous roots. If anything, it highlights that the hardships of indigenous people aren't coming from their blood, which would be racist nonsense, but from the shitty position the rest of our society puts them in.

I understand how an actual indigenous artist might be angry in some sort of lost opportunitykind of way, but I also understand that her family must feel really fucking insulted.

What's the next step? Requiring DNA testing before giving grants money to indigenous artist doesn't seem like a positive to me and I'm fine with indigenous people doing their own gatekeeping into who's one of theirs instead of some bureaucrat somewhere.

Supporting more indigenous artists shouldn't require burning down what she's done.

[–] DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@InEnduringGrowStrong @jadero

I’m sorry but a lot of what you just wrote is contradicted by facts in the reporting… Buffy did *not* grow up on a reserve or in her ‘her tribe’s culture’, she grew up as a white girl in new england, and claims of indigenous origin didn’t appear until the 60s along with her growing musical career.

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

Thanks, I didn't take the time to get all the info regarding her upbringing, so thanks for correcting me.

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

True. As a white dude I don't think my opinion is of any value on the subject. Seeing as her tribe doesn't seem to care, I'd tend to agree with them.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

Well put!

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My understanding is that she was raised in a non-indingenous household in a non-indingenous community from birth through high school and was claiming Indigenous heritage before she was ever adopted into the community of which is now a member.

To me, her marriage certificate says it all. It is a clear and direct refutation of her public claims to ignorance or confusion. Not because she was telling a different story for a different purpose, but because she was acknowledging the reality of her upbringing.

I'm reluctant to suggest that DNA testing is required. Many of the indigenous peoples of at least North America have a long and well documented practice of adopting even adults and former enemies into their families and communities as full fledged members with all the associated privileges, rights, and responsibilities.