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Isn't it interesting that tons of people own guns in America and DON'T shoot people? Or the fact that we had crazy people and assault weapons previously without mass shootings.
Looking at these issues as if they're either-or is ridiculous. Of course you're going to need a multivariate approach. You're not going to get rid of the guns, and you're not going to get rid of crazy people. We need to address gun laws, mental health laws, and societal collapse overall. There's no singular approach that will fix everything.
ah the pro-gun weirdo lemmings have come out once again.
If you go far enough left you get your gun rights back
ah the fucking horsesh~~oe~~it theory.
no you don't, the only purpose of guns is to kill someone, that is not very respectful of their bodily autonomy, is it?
You're stopping short on the "kill all landlords" scale, there
guillotines exist mate and much harder tp shoot up a school with them
Yes, if they aren't respecting your rights, they have forfeited theirs
Do a search to find out who said the following:
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
you're a perfect example of it, actually.
Jesus Christ... Where's the humanity? They called you a pro-gun weirdo lemming (reddit ≈ redditor; lemmy ≈ lemming) and nowhere did they state or even suggest that you were subhuman. Suggesting someone might deserve an active shooter? Nah man, fuck you all the way to Pluto and back.
Btw, I actually agreed with your original message. It's your response to the comment that I'm criticising.
Ngl the lemming thing went over my head too, so thanks for explaining
New to Lemmy. Don't call me a lemming. The connotations are insulting.
Also if you dismiss my perfectly cogent argument as being from a weird pro gun nut....then fuck you go die in a fire, you're not here to discuss you're here to insult. In which case if you wanna get nuts, let's get nuts. I hope the baby Jesus pisses on their corpse
You won't get real far with an attitude like this. Tit for tat and turned up to 1000. You're clearly very defensive over being called anything and still need to figure out who exactly you think you are. If some simple name calling ("lemming") is enough to make you fly inyo attack mode like that and wish an active shooter on someone, you've still got a very long way to go.
Not defensive, dismissive. Simple prisoner's dilemma. I start off nice. If you're not nice back, then die in a fire.
Interrupting just to say Pluto is an effing planet.
Carry on.
Username checks out
I think they were referring to the Underworld of the Roman Pantheon
Exotic, but possible.
He called me a lemming. Fuck him.
Lemming, because you're on lemmy?People on reddit are called redditors, no? People making content on YouTube are called YouTubers. People who stream are called streamers. I'm sure there are more.
I could see the "weirdo" part being offensive, but I'm confused why you're upset about the lemming part. This is on lemmy. We are all lemmings, technically.
It would be like using discord and then getting upset with someone for calling you a discord user.
a pro gun weirdo lemming.
If that's how he's gonna talk to me I'll talk shit back.
We are all lemmings here. Lemming is colloquial slang for a person who uses Lemmy. That's all. I think you replied to yourself, btw.
He still called me a pro gun weirdo for saying you're not going to be able to disarm America. If that's the level of discourse, then America deserves school shooters.
I think you are being a bit overblown about being called a pro gun weirdo on a random internet forum. FWIW, I thought your previous comment was completely reasonable, and do not see you as a pro gun weirdo at all. I dont even think thats that much of an insult, I know people who would wear that as a badge. I agree that the reality is that America is not going to get rid of them anytime soon. Just don't take random comments on the internet so personally. They don't know anything about you and vice versa. They could be a little kid for all you know.
So? Fuck em.
Just wipe out the guns and no more school shootings, stupid.
No annual school shooting is Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan, China, Hongkong, Australia and people like you still defend it.
So retarded view. Go more left till nothing's right.
Okay, how? Are you signing up to go door to door?
Sign the law, order everyone to surrender or face imprisonment. See, that is easy.
So many excuses thrown around.
Will you volunteer to go collect guns from people?
Who says collecting door to door again? Reading comprehension
Are you that naive? I am saying that is an inevitability.
When people refuse to surrender weapons, what do you suppose the step after that is? Arresting someone for not turning in their weapon; which will lead to several violent encounters. This will create additional loss of life, and I thought that was the problem we need to solve.
Then do it. Few losses here and there than perpetual cycle of deaths, naive guy.
I’m not going to go around collecting weapons from people door to door, and it’s beyond fucked up to try to force someone else to do that. Anyone that suggests for someone else to put their life in danger should be compelled to do the same. You sound like a fucking psycho.
Nah no. If you are weak, say so.
Australia did it. This really is an American problem
Australia didn’t have a hole as deep either.
Your reasoning for not removing the guns is that it will lead to gun violence. You think they are going to knock on your door? If it ever would come to that, if laws get changed and having assault rifles becomes outlawed I imagine you would get a few 'friendly requests' to bring them in - just like they did in Australia. If you still don't - you're a criminal and should be treated accordingly. I'm sure the government can handle a few nuts with guns who they don't want to give up.
There'll be less blood than a few weeks of school shootings.
But keep making up new problems
You're almost there... what do you think the implications of this statement are? How does the US treat criminals? What does the US do to pursue and arrest criminals? Shit... how does the US treat mis-identified people asleep in their own beds during no-knock raids?
Keep working your way through this, you might actually get there!
And now you're making up outcomes.
That's just a fantasy, and it's impossible.
Excuse.
"just"
no, they just stab you to death, but guess what? you're still dead
But at least the person next to me was able to run away and get help or call the authorities.
and the police will be armed with?
a. Magic
b.Stick
c. Gun