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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As much as I despise organized religion they aren't fully to blame for the situation. Some of them have really made an effort.

Religion even at its very very best can't do that job. That is why we need the government.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as I despise organized religion they aren’t fully to blame for the situation.

They are if they don’t pay the taxes that would have been used to help with situations such as this.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most churches can't keep the lights on. For every LDS or RCC there are a thousand places on the verge of bankruptcy. Every atheist I know makes a big deal about the big players but not one has shown me the raw the numbers that proves that if they paid corporate tax rates it would be mean more than a few more cruise missiles used to blow up weddings in Pakistan.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proposal: taxes that scale with income... You could call it, I dunno, some sort of income tax.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Income tax is paid by church employees. The thing that isn’t taxed is their profits.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool. My employer now pays the bulk of my earnings in stock and corporate perks.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prayer is not a corporate perk ;)

Yeah agreed. There are some small churches with actually kind people who help the homeless and do good stuff.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need the government: to stop blocking housing development

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree but on no other neoliberal positions. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Government can’t do that job either. We already have homeless shelters. I don’t know why people talk like this is a new idea. We have homeless shelters in our society. They’re government funded in some cases, or church-funded in other cases.

We still have homeless people. We do provide free shelter and food to people. And we still have people sleeping on the street.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The governments barely do anything, in general not putting more than a token effort into helping.

There’s never enough support for the increasing number of homeless people.