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Canada's Carbon Price Working, So Of Course It's Being Attacked::How Do You Defend A Working Carbon Price That's Benefiting Poor People?

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[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know if I'm middle class anymore. But I pay taxes on everything. I get none of the grants. I work as much overtime as I can and every bill keeps going up. I'm not saying carbon tax won't work but fucking pause it for a bit so I can afford to fucking eat.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You were never middle class. None of us are. If you need to work or receive pension payments to maintain your lifestyle you're working class. Convincing the working class that they're middle class is one of the biggest cons of the last century.

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a bit scared to find out what you think is actually middle class.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in a province where the carbon price is federally run, you get the rebate. The average person should break even with the rebate.

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You need to make less then 60 grand to get rebates. I make more so no rebates

Edit 50 grand . In my case I make enough that I get nothing back. This whole family income deal sucks.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Then you are in a province where the carbon price is not run by the fed. The fed says every province has to have a carbon price, but has minimal opinion on where the revenue goes. If a province does not implement their own system, then they get the federal carbon tax-and-rebate system.

The federal tax-and-rebate system has no income rules. You can be broke or a billionaire you still get your cut. The amount is based on province (the ctax money does not leave the province), family size, and urban vs rural (rural folks get a bigger chunk of the pie).

[–] randy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

You must be thinking of a different grant, or you're in a province where the carbon price is not federally run. The federal Climate Action Incentive payment is disbursed to everyone.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The carbon tax rebate is given regardless of income. Stop spreading bullshit

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the fuck do you figure that. It specifically gives a income amount and threshold. I make over a certain amount so no return. They adjust it to family income. How is that spreading bullshit?

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Because the federal carbon tax rebate has no income threshold, I would know since I get it and my income is double your theoretical threshold.