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Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you go back further you had the Kyiv Rus there and it was Ukrainian plus parts of Russia were too.

[–] moroz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

The main part of it was on the part that is Ukrainian today, which is why the name is derived from Kyiv.

It was a multi ethnic state though. Russians of course wouldn't agree, but they are not exactly a reasonable voice on such things.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean there's a reason the region became the USSR for a while, it's all very interwoven histories. There were times Ukraine was part of Russia, there were times Ukraine wasnt Russia but Crimea was, etc. The important thing is that Russia is clearly entitled to the area that has always been Russian, in some form or another.

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The reason the region became the USSR was Russian imperialism and military power.

important thing is that Russia is clearly entitled to the area that has always been Russian, in some form or another.

That's not at all it. If anything Ukraine has not only the better claim to Crimea but also to some of the western parts of Russia than Russia itself.

Historically speaking.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Well, yes, but nobody is arguing America needs to surrender Hawaii or Alaska (or all of the other 48 states, tbh), even though they were both acquired via imperialism, and more recently than Crimea was. The fact is that Russia, just like America with Alaska/Hawaii, is capable of enforcing it's ownership claim of the region, and it's really not that unreasonable a demand to be making that the rest of the world consent to their ownership of it. It's just the price of peace. America is simply trying to stifle their trade potential by proclaiming that Ukraine, who is not remotely close to a threat to American power, is the legit owner of a highly powerful port.