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House censures only Palestinian member over call for Palestinian freedom | Mondoweiss (mondoweiss.net)

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[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't blame them for how they feel either but that doesn't make those feelings any less wrong

Read what you respond to without trying to get a gotcha. It's not their fault. They're still wrong for being anti-semetic. The fault still lies solely on Israel for their anti-semitism and Hamas existing.

Don't ignore reality because it's inconvenient. You're on the right side either way so just be honest with the beliefs of Palestinians. I'm honest with my families belief, but guess what? I still support Palestine because it's not about them being anti-semetic. It's about them being the victims of apartide and genocide

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a reality caused by Zionism.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

Zionism is a failed ideology. In addition to the Apartheid policies, it will never be a safe haven for Jews. Citizens will be branded with taking part in genocide, even ones that didn’t. No amount of Hasbara will wash off the stigma. People with dual citizenship are already fleeing. https://www.threads.net/@theloneguyland/post/CzbrpvsObwm/

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read what you respond to without trying to get a gotcha. It's not their fault. They're still wrong for being anti-semetic. The fault still lies solely on Israel for their anti-semitism and Hamas existing.

What are you trying to prove at this point?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That israel is using the good Jewish faith as a shield for their war crimes and genocide.

Zionists are the true anti semites making people hate Jews instead of Zionists by calling everything they do "anti Semitic" . And America is gladly damaging the Jewish name to further their imperialist cause because the American government hate Jews.

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed 100% but I'm still lost as to what that has to do with the fact that many palestinians are legitimately anti-semetic and not just anti-israel. I'm just saying we don't have to deny the actual anti-semitism many palestinians hold to advocate against Israel, especially when it's Israel's fault for it.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah because all those Palestinians hear is israel saying " WE ARE JEWS AND ACCORDING TO OUR JEWISH FAITH WE WE NEED TO KILL ALL OF YOU AND TAKE YOUR Land" And then the entire west says in unison that israel is a Jewish country for Jews.

You cannot even begin to blame the Palestinians for their ignorance as their access to internet and other resources is severely limited.

You have literal Jews protesting "not in our name" against israel and governments arrest them for anti semitism.

When it came to ISIS and Al Qaeda many people in the west also just started blindly hating on all Muslims because some extremists ran away with the name. Imagine how it would have been if the media said "All criticism of ISIS is banned because it's Islamophobia"

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I really don't think you're arguing with who you think you are. I said a few times I don't blame Palestinians for how they feel. I literally am Palestinian (not born there, my grandma was one of the people who fled in the 40s)