Palestinian Jews or Jewish Palestinians were the Jewish inhabitants of the Palestine region (known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, lit. 'Land of Israel') prior to the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but we're not talking immediately before the establishment of Israel in the Palestine region in 1948 , I'm referring to the ethnic group inhabiting the region around 2000 years ago during Jesus' life (assuming he was a real person)

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'd say the same logic applies: he was a Jew from the Palestine region. Of course that's probably not the most accurate terminology, but I wouldn't deem it incorrect.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's true but I'm an Australian from the Perth region and have no ancestral connection to the inhabitants of this land 200 years ago let alone 2000. It would be disingenuous to claim that there is a shared heritage with the people who live in an area today with those from thousands of years ago. Off the top of my head there are many times where the demographics of Palestine may have changed not including the Jewish migration into the region in the mid 20th century. Examples would be Roman conquest of the region, the crusades, the Turkish migration into the region from the central Asian steppe and migration of Arabs into the region. (Full disclosure I am not educated on the topic I would love to know if anyone can share with me a more accurate rendition of the historical migration in the region)

Don't get me wrong free Palestine, but I'm not 100% sure that it's accurate to claim that modern Palestinians share a common heritage with the people who lived in the region during the time of Jesus

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Palestinian doesn’t just refer to the Turkish or Arab people of Palestine today though. It also includes the Mizrahi and the people who are a mix of those groups. Jesus would look like the Mizrahi and the difference between him and them is closer to the difference between Boudicca and a modern scot.

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It becomes easier if you think of Palestinian as a demonym rather than an ethnonym.

[–] tjtherealbest@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

There are several different ethnic groups of Jews. Ashkenaszi (European Jews and what westerners automatically assume a Jewish person is and looks like), Sephardic Jews, Yemeni Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Karaite Jews, and so many more. As well, the Jewish people have been subjugated to being forced to move and travel and who knows what the people of the time of Jesus would have actually looked like.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

"ethnically jewish"