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I’ve seen many comments and posts regarding the API fiasco on Reddit, with the claim that there will be a huge influx of users when that happens. I’m all for it, but I find it hard to believe that the average or even above average user will make the effort to switch.

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[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nobody knows the future, but speaking as an instance admin, the ideal scenario would be a continued steady growth and not a huge sudden influx 😅

[–] papajohn@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is great here on Lemmy but tbh, the content is limited. My enjoyment here is partly watching it develop. Im like 1 week in and I can see it growing day by day. I don’t think that is what most eventual users want to experience. They want it all set up with the party in full swing.

[–] klyde@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I love the conversations here. It's just normal people talking. No amateur comedians at the top of threads with their crappy jokes. It's so nice.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I love it here too. I'm finding that im connecting with people, getting into your head reading your words and it's nice. Watching the whole process is pretty awesome. Definitely not the average users expectations, im sure.

[–] Arcaverium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I also don't miss the ragebait and troll posts, those can stay on reddit.

[–] haulyard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It honestly took me a moment to get used to such a high percentage of civil discourse.

[–] blenderwig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I like that I am talking to real people, not potential comment reposter bots. Feels less like a psyops experiment and more like actual engagement.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes this is like Reddit was back 10-16 years ago when I joined. Much better discussions here than Reddit now. I'm honestly pretty happy where everything is already, I'd like to take the growth nice and slow so that we can stay in the good zone longer. Both digg and Reddit were too banal for me towards the end.

[–] pkrasicki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you for your service. Would you be interested in testing my modern UI theme for Lemmy on your instance? It works with Lemmy 0.17 and 0.18.0. You can get the CSS files from the releases page.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey! I have had a few questions about themes. At this point, I am asking users to apply non-mainlined themes through userscripts - I am wary of taking on extra responsibilities in maintaining compatibility for additional themes. Sorry about that!

But all themes that get added to the main lemmy-ui repo will always be available out of the box on lemm.ee as well. The repo is open to contributions, so you could have a look at that option if that's something you're interested in.

[–] pkrasicki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already made a proposal to improve the default theme, but my issue was closed without any response from the developers. The required changes were small on purpose and should be easy to implement for anyone already familiar with the code. So it seems that UI is not a priority to Lemmy developers. That's why I had to develop my addon, which I then also turned into a theme. I hope that one day Lemmy instances will start using some kind of modern theme (doesn't have to be mine), so that my addon is no longer needed.

My theme is just a small amount of styles applied on top of the default litely and darkly themes, which should make maintenance easier. Unlike an addon, a theme doesn't need to support multiple versions of Lemmy at the same time, so we could simplify it even more. Lemmy 0.18 uses CSS variables now, so that also makes things easier.

Something needs to be done about Lemmy's outdated UI and I'm not sure if the current approach of developing multiple userscripts and addons is efficient. I understand if you think this might cause too much work for you though.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already made a proposal to improve the default theme, but my issue was closed without any response from the developers.

You're misinterpreting what happened there - the issue was not closed to shut it down, it was actually converted into a discussion to make it easier to track: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/discussions/1503

It wasn't exactly one specific issue that could be fixed, it was a longer discussion with a bunch of branches. For such things, the discussions format is much more usable.

So it seems that UI is not a priority to Lemmy developers.

I just want to point out that there has been a massive amount of UI improvements in 0.18 and 0.18.1 (just take a look at all the changes by @jsit for example: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Ajsit+). In addition, new themes are being created directly for the lemmy-ui repo as well, for example: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/1682

[–] pkrasicki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know the developer's exact intentions, but my issue was a specific, easy to implement proposal. It wasn't meant to be a discussion.

There have been UI improvements, but the design is still outdated. The theme you linked to is also not a modern design. What we need the most is an improved default theme, so that everyone could enjoy an easy to read website.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

God speed brother.