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Japan Sends Man to G7 Meeting on Women’s Empowerment (time.com)

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The incident highlights ongoing struggles with gender parity in Japan—which ranks lowest among G7 member states on the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index.

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is he saying these men are needed to lead women in matters of gender equality?

Is he saying that???

Because that's not what he said and it seems awfully presumptive to just twist his words into something cynical without reason.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Is he saying" does not mean "he is saying".

The reason I'm asking if this is what he is saying, is because he said it in the context of him being the leader.

If he's referring to his own leadership role then by saying men are needed he effectively is suggesting this, yes.

If he's not referring to his own leadership role, then he's sidestepping the question of why a man is in charge of/has power over a women's empowerment event.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand that, but you've literally just tacked extra words onto what he said that completely twist the meaning of what he said, and then asking if he's saying that.

Even if you're only asking not saying, it's overtly cynical and borderline a strawman argument. Like "I'm not saying he beats his wife, I'm merely asking if he does!" Its' really not fair to twist someone's words like that unless you have good reason to assume he is speaking in bad faith.

What he said was "male leaders with strong enthusiasm for gender equality are still needed" -- that's not controversial at all, but tacking something on to make it cynical and nasty is.

he's sidestepping the question of why a man is in charge of/has power over a women's empowerment even

Maybe... but I think the answer to that is probably something as simple as Japan made the choice (however boneheaded it was) to send a man to the meeting as their representative, and since the meeting was in Japan, he was the chair. It's usually better to assume ignorance than malice.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's "cynical" of me to expect a G7 meeting on women's empowerment to be comprised of women.

I also don't think it's "cynical" to question this guy's logic.

I don't know why you're accusing me of "twisting" and bad faith. I'm not sure what you think my motives are, but I don't have an agenda here.

I'm going to just agree to disagree at this point. Have a nice evening.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't write what you think I wrote. You seem to be defending yourself against something I didn't say.

Please reread what I said (or don't if you wish, I'm not trying to have an argument).

Either way, have a good evening.