Too many people are confusing the two. Whenever lemmy.ml or its devs do something stupid, people go "Lemmy is getting worse and worse," or "I'm leaving Lemmy," or worse, "I'm leaving for Beehaw."

If you're using Beehaw, then you're using Lemmy. Lemmy is the software these instances run on. If you don't like lemmy.ml, join another instances that have rules that match your philosophy. Some instance hosts authoritarian or fascist shit? Turn to another Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml is not even the biggest instance. People who just joined and are unfamiliar with the platform will just think the entire Lemmyverse is run by autocratic admins if we don't get our terminology right.

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[–] quinten@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not a karma whore, otherwise I would not post on Lemmy. But when you post something and you see that people agree with it is nice to see. I do not see the problem with karma.

[–] Quentintum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think there's a difference between upvotes and karma. Seeing upvotes on a particular post is nice. Having a score of the sum of all your upvotes and having it displayed to everyone is a different matter, in my opinion. I feel like it gets taken as a gauge of the quantity/value of a person's contributions, when there are low-effort ways of gaining karma, hence the problem some may have.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Its a gamification tactic to keep people addicted to Reddit. It's definitively not a good thing, in my opinion

[–] quinten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree!

[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is aggravated on Reddit by karma based moderation, e.g. minimum karma to post. This resulted in bots that repost popular content and / or copy popular comments to farm karma so they can bypass these tools.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having moderated on Reddit, there's a good reason for min karma to post. It cuts spam account posting massively.

[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no doubt it used to work, but if you've ever browsed /popular or /all, it doesn't work any more. Bots farm karma for a few weeks, then hits 30 or 40 different communities with the same crypto spam. The bot gets banned, and another takes it place.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Rarely if ever browsed /r/all, I'm referring more to the niche subs that would get T-shirt spam all the time. Seemed to work well on that for a long time.

[–] V4uban@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't seeing upvotes on a certain post, as it is now, give you that feeling?

[–] quinten@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It does. But as I said it is not a really important feature for me. It is 'nice to see' but nothing more than that.