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[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the guy gets fucked over by Trump, and thinks that's a good quality? He's an idiot.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Step past your hatred of the guy and look for some nuance my friend.

The person I spoke with didn't like Trump, but admired Trump's sharp mind and strategic brain that could out-think a lot of very smart people. Their belief was that Trump is sharp as a tack but just pretends to be an idiot so people underestimate him.

Being the smartest guy in the room, being able to come to a negotiation and sweep the board when nobody sees it coming is never a bad quality for a President. THAT is what they respected-- the ability to do that to a bunch of very smart people.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's called being a narcissistic conman, and is not a sign of intelligence, only a sign of lack of empathy and morals.

The fact he got taken in makes him an idiot.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Well there were a table full of people saying 'we know Trump can be slimy so we'll protect ourselves' and it wasn't good enough. So I guess they're all idiots.
I think it's fair to argue that if you know Trump has a reputation for screwing everybody over, the only non-idiotic move is to stay the fuck away from him. So that's probably fair grounds for calling them idiots.

That Trump chose to screw everybody over makes him a narcissistic conman without empathy or morals.
The fact that he COULD do it, even to smart people who were expecting it and thought they'd prepared, is arguably a sign of intelligence.
That he chooses to use whatever intelligence he has screwing everybody over rather than solving real problems-- that's back to narcissistic conman without empathy or morals.

You can be a narcissistic conman without empathy or morals, and still be smart.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So the guy sees Trump do some underhanded stuff to screw people over and thought “that’s what I want to lead my country”