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[–] alwaysfallingupyup@lemmings.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

theres offices and tunnels under a lot of the hospitals. either people arent paying attention or their purposely ignoring facts

[–] snek@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

either people arent paying attention or their purposely ignoring facts

The third option is that Israel is lying.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nuh, there's an underground network under the hospital and it has been previously used as hamas intelligence.

proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof,

[–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

First link is from X, just Israeli soldiers delivering 300 liters of fuel that won't run the hospital for more than an hour, a troll move.

Second "proof" is an article from 2014. No one ever denied there being tunnels, that would be fucking stupid.

The third one is also from 2014 and behind a paywall.

The fourth one is a link to a google book but I can't read any pages.

And now I'm not even bothering to click the rest.

Has it ever occurred to you that it's not enough to just post hyperlinks and say they are "proof"? Do you understand that it should also entail containing a "proof"? Evidence is not just providing a link or video, it has to actually show something tangible. Israel has failed at that miserably again and again.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First link is from X, just Israeli soldiers delivering 300 liters of fuel that won’t run the hospital for more than an hour, a troll move.

It can power different machines, not the whole hospital at once. Fuel is low for starters to see how effective providing aid will be. Moreso focus on that hamas is hindering their efforts.

Second “proof” is an article from 2014. No one ever denied there being tunnels, that would be fucking stupid.

Yes, they've known about Hamas having control of the hospital since 2014.

The third one is also from 2014 and behind a paywall.

Use a paywall bypass?

The fourth one is a link to a google book but I can’t read any pages.

In google books you can preview pages by searching for specific words. Here you go!

Has it ever occurred to you that it’s not enough to just post hyperlinks and say they are “proof”? Do you understand that it should also entail containing a “proof”? Evidence is not just providing a link or video, it has to actually show something tangible. Israel has failed at that miserably again and again.

bruh you just said you're not bothering to look at the rest eheheh. besides~ the EU, UN, Amnesty International all confirm that Hamas are using hospitals as shields.

[–] snek@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not bothering to look at your like 8 links because the first 4 were bullshit and humans only live for so long, would rather make time for a nice cup of coffee instead.

Screaming "proof, proof, proof" isn't proof, sorry.

The 300 liters of fuel were shameful and offensive, the IDF should be ashamed. Israeli is the reason these babies are dying, and 300 liters were not enough. On top of that the IDF published a recording with someone at the hospital stating that they "didn't want to accept the fuel"... but of course when you speak fucking Arabic, you can hear clearly that it says, "this amount [of fuel] is not okay", since the IDF promised 2k then delivered 0.3k.... even though Israel is the reason they don't have fuel and are dying. Pathetic "evidence", a recording of a few seconds because the rest of the call would have made it clear what the topic was about.

Israel doesn't have convincing evidence, period.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not bothering to read your comment because humans only live for so long, would rather make time for a nice cup of coffee instead.

[–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, I hope you enjoy your coffee. The more time you spend on coffee is less time you spend on the internet defending a genocidal apartheid project.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im pro-information

do not care what imaginary sky-god is weal

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

what do you think this whole conflict boils down to? their book says they own it. their book says they own it.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been paying attention to the IDF propaganda that all get debunked within a day. Are you talking about the elevator shaft in a building 200meter from one hospital?

Hamas had accepted to send an independent journalist to check out the hospital and this was refused by israel. That alone tells you all you need to know

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Surely the really bad 3D rendering video we were provided by the Israeli authorities is proof enough and we should implicitly believe their "totally independent, trust me I wouldn't lie to you" assessments???!!!

Right?!

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] alwaysfallingupyup@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or they dont want the press to get hurt where the fighting is happening

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's probably why israel has killed over 40 journalists so far by bombing them.

Oh wait those were Palestinian press so that's fine right?