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As far as I can see, the sexual acts are not made explicit and allegedly happened when she could barely remember or understand anything, and she went almost 2 decades without saying a word. Then they have a dispute over an inheritance for his benefit, and a couple of years later when he becomes famous she accuses him publicly without providing evidence or denouncing him to justice.
I don't think there is enough to point to, let alone the current aggressive harassment campaign; but anyway, sadly we have already seen similar things even with anonymous accusations.
Pretty common to have a hard time with details when your subconscious literally shields you from it.
What harassment campaign are you referring to? His sisters claims of a multitude of abuse?
You and every other abuse denier ought to think twice about doubting someone who’s clearly asking for help, even if they turn out to be a lying greedy shit stain. The alternative is that, if you’re wrong about it being a lie, you make someone’s hell 20x worse and give abusers power. You stand nothing to lose by standing by someone asking for help.
If you go through my comments, it’s easy to tell I’m a devils advocate addict. But when it comes to abuse claims there a pretty easy default stance you can take by siding with the abused or completely abstaining from making any judgment calls on either side until more info arises. Sometimes no stance is best.
Not to mention the reason the dude was fired from the company… sounds like a he’s a pretty classic example of a manipulative and controlling person.
Lastly need I point to rape claim statistics, and the rate at which ceos in America are sociopaths??
You know what else is abuse? Slander and false allegations – these can easily shatter lives completely.
There's no point in your dichotomy of choosing to side with the victim or the abuser if you can't determine who is who. You only know who the accuser and accused are, and if you choose to side with the accuser without good reason, it's like deciding whether or not to support the abuser by flipping a coin; essentially a witch hunt.
First, you establish who the victim is, and then you unveil my dark denialist secret. Does the crystal ball have customer service in case I'm not satisfied with the divinations?
We’re in agreement on innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn’t remove the public’s opinion. Both sides are being critically looked at, so as a whole I guess we’re doing the right thing in questioning.
I just find it odd that a good natured sibling would knowingly send a sibling who has asked for money from you in the past a fucking diamond made from their father’s ashes.
That behavior right there to me starts to paint a pretty specific picture in my minds. I mean come on. Throw out all the allegations and look at just the stuff that’s provable immediately (if she took a pic of the diamond and some texts). She mentioned the abuse to her mom when she was young in a way that was consistent with abuse victims stories and there is not shot in the mother loving world that some little kid is gonna magically shit out those same patterns.
There, to me, is motive for him to act the way he has. There is evidence that he has purposely lied or withheld info from people (a board of directors nonetheless).
The dude who wrote the LW post,which was a beautiful example of good neutral writing, was nearly immediately banned on Twitter. Interesting that the same banning techniques that Annie mentions. Could be coincidence, maybe banning on Twitter happens more now with musk in charge - not sure.
This stuff just piles on and on. It just fits way damn well. He’s still innocent until the law is involved but I have to side with the alleged victim in this case, for this reasoning. I can’t see what facts could possibly come to light to change the specific things I mentioned in the paragraphs above. The sad reality, like I said, is that there’s a fair amount of actual, abusive nut jobs with money and power and they brush these little family affairs under the rug
Constantly.