this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2023
318 points (95.2% liked)

News

23353 readers
3146 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] skybreaker@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Well, yeah, when people are spending $30K-$80K on a car, they're likely gonna miss payments eventually. The car market, including used cars, has been over-inflated for years.

We had a 2003 Honda Element that we bought in 2008 for $8000. It had less than 50,000 miles on it. We saw that same exact model in a car lot this year, with over 150,000 miles and they were selling it for $10,000. Over 15 years later and over 100,000 miles more on it and it's selling for more. There is a serious problem with the car market right now.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honda Element isn't the best car to illustrate overall inflation. They're kind of in trend right now, so the price is higher than similar cars of same era/mileage.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wtf, Honda elements are trendy? We used to rag on my friends element because it was like half plastic. Can't imagine that has aged well.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Wait till you see FJ Cruisers selling for $20,000+ with over a quarter million miles on em.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Vanlife YouTube got to them.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

During peak COVID, the dealer wanted to buy back my Q50 for $6k more than I paid them for it four years prior.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Elements are enjoying a Renaissance more than a lot of other cars out there

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

The price of cars was relatively flat from about 1998 until covid, actually. In 2019 cars were a bargain compared to the 80s and 90s.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're also comparing 2003 prices to 2023 prices. Inflation occurred in the last 20 years. Like, this is just what happened to all goods and services.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It hurts to agree with you. Like I wanted to downvote you but then I checked an inflation calculator. The problem is wages haven't kept up. In a normal period of inflation nobody notices because their purchasing power is unaffected. But if prices go up while wages stagnate then everyone notices.