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[–] hh93@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm as left as you can get without being straight up communist - I despise neoliberalism and think that countries should to a lot more to make billionaires nonexistent via redistribution of money and higher wealth- and inheritance-tax but for this issue it's just not enough if everyone washes their hands in innocence and only points to them

sure their personal lifestyle is much shittier than the one from the average person but pinning the emissions from companies they own on them is just making things far too easy on the average person

People need to vote for a green transition and not for some shortsighted utopia of "if we just remove the billionaires climate change will be fixed" - that's not the case as long as demand is still there

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I despise neoliberalism

No. You don't. If you did, you wouldn't literally be regurgitating one of the fundamental tenets of neoliberal ideology - individual responsibility. Need to be reminded of this?

but pinning the emissions from companies they own on them is just making things far too easy on the average person

See that part up there? You know, the part where you blame capitalist parasitism on poor people?

People need to vote for a green transition

Riiiiight... how is this whole "voting harder" thing going for you?

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't say the single person is responsible - I say the population as a whole is - and for that to happen there needs to be a massive shift on the individual level as politicians won't vote against most of their population.

It's less about the individual responsibility for climate change but about a motivation to become politically active and get more people on board - leading by example is just a very low-level approach that everyone can do.

I'm not pinning anything on poor people - I'm just saying that pointing fingers will do literally nothing and I think we should work within the current democratic systems which in turn means that everyone is at least a bit responsible for who they vote for. And voting and advocating for a party that promises to cut down emissions of everyone is the most logical thing as just removing the billionaires won't fix a thing if polluting isn't made more expensive which definitely WILL influence everyone.

It just seems very immature to use this thing as a "get out of jail card" to continue flying every year and doing the shortest possible trips via car instead of taking the bike for a change or advocating for more bike infrastructure in cities.

It's not going well because a lot of people seem to think they are not affected and want to ignore the whole issue until it's too late and nature forces them to change - and it's frustrating. Everyone should've started adapting to a more ecological lifestyle yesterday but that obviously didn't happen. If it did it would be much easier to actually get politicians to change something

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

we should work within the current democratic systems

Well, that's just fine and dandy... but that all depends on whether you actually have anything that can be called a "democratic" system with a straight face now does it?

Sooo... do you?