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and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it's so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it's a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

when you work, you gotta be sober, period. What you do in your free time is your thing

if drug tests in any way proved that you were high at work I'd be in favor of them, but the fact is that they don't. The drugs that actually cause problems (coke, dope/fetty, amphetamines) are out of your system before they can realistically be tested for and drug tests for other things like marijuana only prove that you've used within the last month or so. The fact is you can't support drug testing at work and allowing people to do what they want on their own time. The two are mutually incompatible due to the nature of our current testing.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't say if drug tests work well or not, I don't know that. I don't care if anyone gets high in their free time either, I just don't want someone high on anything while working as with almost all jobs that will be a problem. Yes, weed is also a problem, just like alcohol too.

I also think that if you so desperately need to be high that you have bigger issues.

If, on the other hand, you need it literally and really just for medicinal reasons, pain control, whatever, then we can talk but still.within reason. You can't operate a car while high, for example, pain or no pain.

[–] SomeSphinx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's the issue being discussed here. The tests will also show up if you smoked the week before on your day off. They don't determine whether you were high on the clock or high on the weekends only. It penalizes people who smoke weed in their free time, as opposed to people who are actively causing a problem. Additionally, booze, meth, and heroin for example, are all out of your system much faster, so it doesn't really do a good job of determining whether or not they'll be blitzed on the job either, which is what the comment you replied to said. The point being made is that the drug test isn't actually going to prevent anyone from being drunk on the job, but it will prevent you from hiring the guy who tried weed once in his free time.