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This isn't much of a hoop, you install wine and run the installer with it, furthermore, I'd rather deal with the kind of hoop that isn't actively harming you intentionally any day.
It was not easy. Other guides didn't work, I had to find it, and also do or, so it took like 1 and a half hour.
My advice is honestly, just use steam, it's largely a better experience anyway. I don't think fall guys is exactly necessary. That's a very self-imposed hoop, i'd get it if it was critical work, or if there were no alternatives, but, steam is a perfect experience.
It's epics job to support linux, not linux's job to support epic.
You ignore the reality though that even though it might be "epics job" to support Linux, it's still the user's problem right now if you want to play Fall Guys with your friends.
And you can't just say "playing Fall Guys is not exactly necessary". Social connections are very important to humans, being one of a group to not be able to participate in a shared activity can be socially isolating. Of course that's a completely different topic you could argue about if it should be like this, but you can only dismiss it as not necessary for yourself, not as not necessary in general, for others.
If you use Windows, it works immediately, if you use Linux, you have to spend the time and do whatever that guy did. This is a very real cost for the user, time is one of the most precious things we have.
Of course you can argue about if it is worth it, but in the end people assign different value to things. If playing Fall Guys is very important to someone and it takes more time to do on Linux than on Windows, then Linux loses value. And this situation is not a single instance. People mostly only do what is the best for them in particular, and using less time to do the things they want to do is a prime example for this.
Fall guys is not the only game, nearly all of steam works flawlessly. So meh, and it is epics job to fix that. Play any other game on steam, fall guys isn't important at all for the vast vast majority of users.
You do realize how much money Microsoft spends to make games work well on Windows, right? It is absolutely the responsibility of the OS to ensure smooth experience across many apps and services. This attitude right here is why Linux plays second fiddle to Windows still.
and yet nearly everything on steam works flawlessly.
It is absolutely the job of app devs to support the platform, I have no idea why you would believe otherwise, and as far as gaming is concerned I genuinely believe the only place linux loses on steam is anticheat, which isn't a matter of linux side support. Do you have an example?
Any advanced user will face dozens of hoops a month on Linux
It's never the simple things, nor the very difficult things. It's small, niche workflows & use cases of your computer that you "sometimes" do, like, I don't know, editing a PDF, installing shareX or an equivalent that can take a screenshot and upload it to imgur / run OCR on a part of your screen, running a Space Engineers server for your friends, running SSEEdit.exe to dump the contents of a potion overhaul mod in Skyrim and calculate which are the best ingredients to plant in your Skyrim greenhouse and garden for maximizing gold output.
No need to look up ways to do any of those, I'll get different ones next week, and then more the week after.
You know, the millions of things that no one ever does except that guy in 2019 on StackExchange, but that you will have to do and then never again.
I face yearly hoops at most and I have supported many users, the vast majority of people have little to no trouble, and the cases you describe are either niche, one time setups, or bizarre things nearly nobody does.
I maintain that the vast majority of users will face fewer issues on linux than windows, these are all insanely edge cases.
It doesn't matter that they are one time setups, the question is how many one time setups will you have to do in a year, year over year?
Same for "insanly edge cases" (editing a pdf, lol), the question is how likely are you to encounter an edge in your daily life?
When there's a one-in-a-million chance to encounter a defect but there's millions of them, it just becomes likely.
Turns out the world is made of a lot of edges for some advanced users.
Editing a pdf works perfectly, yes edge cases occur, but by definition they are not the norm, and edge cases would be resolved by more people using it anyway, and I can still easily recommend it for most people.
Harming you intentionally... This is rich.
Do you actually believe windows doesn't harm users intentionally? Wait until you hear how they spy on you.
Don’t care, I block it. Doesn’t mean it’s not superior to Linux for a gaming platform.
"I have to guard against my partner hitting me, doesn't mean they're not better at playing tennis"
Linux in a huge number of cases performs better than windows, and the only place where windows seems to win these days is anti-cheat, which is malware. Windows is certainly better when it comes to allowing users to install malware, but that's really about it.