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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Found this because an article on Helen Toner popped up in my feed and I wanted to find out more, and boy did I find out more.

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe there's a normal progression for any cult where they are convinced that The Man is out to get them.

[–] GSV_Spinnaker@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This seems like abnormal paranoia even for LW, maybe they're getting worse. I really do they don't drive too many people nuts with anxiety :<. Fun as it is to poke at them, cults are depressing things.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would say that as an NSA member. ;)

But jokes aside, while it is very unlikely it isn't totally impossible that some spooks are doing things. Iirc during the end of the 90's the AIVD was hacked and it was revealed that they had a few informants inside the Dutch hacker scene/universites, at least that is a store I heard. Of course an informant will not have 'works for CIA' on their resume.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago

NatSec types, being naturally paranoid and probably inherently rightwing, would probably be drawn to EA like flies on shit.

Incidentally, in Sterling’s Heavy Weather there’s a description of a group of dark triad negative EA types, where smart people are recruited to lower the population of the book’s grimdark future.