this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2023
921 points (98.4% liked)
Technology
59594 readers
3399 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Just install Linux already. Have any inevitable windows requirements? Run them in a VM until you can get rid of them. Fuck Microsoft and their bullshit
I dunno man, I recently put Mint onto my Lenovo and... the refinement just isn't there STILL. dual monitor management isn't very good, even mouse acceleration doesn't play well when you go from the touchpad to an external mouse. Sure, many things have improved, but the fit and finish just isn't even where windows was a decade ago...
I have dual monitors with different scaling and refresh rates, both work perfectly. Even VRR works as expected. I'm using Manjaro KDE with Wayland, Intel CPU, AMD GPU.
Linux Mint hasn't finished their work on Wayland and thus, the things you are experiencing are unfortunately expected. So you might want to try with another distro with GNOME or KDE.
When people suggested you Mint, they were wrong in ignoring your setup.
That's another issue with Linux: one thing works in distro X and another thing works in distro Y. OS should just work. Linux doesn't.
Linux works. It's only a Kernel.
Android is also a linux distro. To you, it might seem as another OS. So from that point of view, each distro would be a dIfferent OS. So you should judge each distro as such.
So, what people told you Linux is, in fact that Kernel on top of a ton other software.
You can't expect all distros to be the same. Because their purposes are different.
That's not what people mean when saying "switch to Linux".
They mean a Linux based OS, and say Linux for short. They could also say GNU/Linux, but chose not to. I do it every single time, but its for convenience, but technically imprecise.
When we are talking about distributions being different, that's their whole purpose, since their only common denominator is the underlying kernel.
You're just moving the conversion sideways. If you have nothing to say on the topic - move on.
We're you on Xorg? I think Mint still is by default?
Recommend trying Fedora proper (with Gnome).
Everything works perfectly except HDR (next release).
Even multi monitor and hidpi. It's polished and cohesive in its design. And if you want the windows 7 look you can use the dash to panel extension.
I feel the same way when I am forced to use Windows, it feels so primitive and in-the-way but I guess people get used to what they use.
The person you replied to provided real-world and relatable examples. What do you have other than durr linux good windows bad?
I didn't say Linux was good and Windows was bad. I was commenting on how one gets used to what they use regardless of what it is and implying that this effect might be the cause of their negative feelings rather than their implicit claim of Linux being a decade behind.
But just for an example or two, I like privacy, I like options, I don't like ads, I don't like MS coercing me to update to their newest, most restrictive, least private, most profitable OS version. I don't like them coercing me to use their browser. I don't like the feeling I get using software from a company known for anti-competitive behavior. A bunch more stuff like that really.
But tbh, I don't have many Windows usage gripes as I've been able to avoid it most of my life. Why put up with all the other issues to use something that might be better in some cases unless forced to.
I will never install Linux because I'll never trust that it'll be easier to use than windows, and that's all I want.
I can't count the number of people that have told me I should be on Linux and that if I use Mint it'll be a piece of perfect cake, despite me also seeing comments like this on a pretty regular basis.
Why is it that so much of the community REFUSES to acknowledge any shortcomings? Almost like it's their child and you're personally attacking their parenting by suggesting its not flawlessly simple.
You know what, you're absolutely right. I'm pretty steeped into the whole linux thing, but it really isn't going to win any prizes for usability. If I need shit to work, I'll boot into my windows partition. When I'm up for some tinkering fun, my GRUB defaults to Tumbleweed. It is not for everyone, despite what some neckbeards or snobs would lead people to believe.
Is it not good or is it different from your habitz? Haven't had issues with those points on my Linuxes.
Try bodhi the advanced hw version.
Try Fedora with KDE.
In my opinion it's the best one for having the most ease-of-use hardware support out of the box, as they're backed by IBM, which used to own Lenovo.
Anti-cheat is still a major issue. Even in a VM with GPU pass-through, anti-cheat will still prevent some popular games from running.
As an artist, the hassle of running a VM can actually kill creative flow. Same with alternatives.
People underestimate how much such a tiny can completely disrupt flow of thoughts, esp for creative works.
It's not even laziness either. It just "feels wrong"
Running Visual Studio in a VM? No thanks, it is heavy enough as it is. And don't say use VS Code or Rider. Saying "Just use some other software, so you can use Linux" defeats the entire argument that Linux can be used in place of Windows.
Discord with virtual backgrounds for video calls? Yeah that's not supported on Linux.
If you’ve got two video cards, which is pretty much the case for anyone with an Intel cpu, then gpu pass through solves many problems. I really only use a Win10 VM for games and Adobe software plus one piece of work software. I think whether your overall point is valid or not depends on what you need Linux for and how much you still depend on Windows apps. To be honest the nicest piece of software available on Windows and not other apps is Nvidia Broadcast. You could use OBS to get your blurred background on Discord but that’s really too much work.
I mean, you should be using Rider anyways.
Installed Mint. I needed quite a lot of work to make for example IDE configured CORRECTLY. (VSCodium on flatpak is a pain in the ass, don't recommend). But aside of that, after small tweaks and customizations and I like it. I'll make a point that I kad previous experience with Linux (PopOS/Mint/Ubuntu), although not a positive one. Now I'm seeing that being here is vastly better than windows, and ofc more concise. The backup system is nice, allows you to revert for example an update (which was important for my case cuz after major system update, fingerprint authentication on login screen was borked, and needed reinstall). Overall nice experience. It's not perfect, but nothing is.
Nothing works under Linux. And the list just just keeps growing.