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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 118 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The presidential oath of office that Trump was required to recite during the swearing in ceremony:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It dOeSn'T sAy "sUpPoRt"!!1! ChEcKmAtE lIbS!!

(I feel dirty now)

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 73 points 10 months ago

That's literally the legal defence they are using.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

The “I’m not touching you” defense.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

See also the, "We'rE NoT A DeMoCrAcY" set.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The 2nd amendment says nothing about guns/firearms. It was written as arms. It specifically talks about a militia and being able to keep things. It also says that we have the right to obtain the arms of bears (bear arms). There is literally no precedent to allow anyone have a gun.

It’s pretty explicit in what they wanted.

/s

This is why trying to argue based on literal words, and not intent, is dumb.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution defines the powers of Congress, including:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

According to the words of the Constitution, Congress can't appropriate any money to the Air Force.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

"Raise your little armies everyone! First your left arm and then your right arm and then your bear arm! Now wave your armies!"

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

But didn't you see he had his fingers crossed? That means he doesn't have to do it!

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

They're trying to play semantic games and claim that supporting is not the same thing is preserving, protecting, and defending. It's a laughably bad argument and hopefully it gets struck down pretty much immediately.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, I've usually heard it pronounced half to, but I guess the 'correct' spelling is have to.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What would "half to" even mean?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What does have to mean? Have is possessing something, have to doesn't make sense either.

[–] ArtieShaw@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It means that it is required. Obligatory.

It's a modal verb. And I think it comes from the secondary meaning of have as "to undergo or experience" rather than to possess. Or maybe not.

in any case:

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/have-to

In my dialect, you're correct about one thing. It's pronounced nearly the same way as half. But that would make no sense.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would 'I have something to do' (I posess an option of a thing to do) would be the same as 'I have to do something'? (I need to do a thing) I thought those were different words.

[–] ArtieShaw@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

The word order makes all the difference.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

"Preserve, protect, and defend, but not support. Checkmate liberals!!!"

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