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Here and Here for sources that back up the claims made in this tweet. Additional source for backing up the number of journalists killed in the Vietnam war

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 135 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The WWII number is ridiculous - are they saying that among the millions of civilians that died, there were only 69 journalists?

The Vietnam number isn't right either - it counts only journalists on the American side.

Generally when you see someone claim that anything is worse than WWII, they're not telling the truth. Even the Hamas attack wasn't as bad as a normal day during that war.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Journalists being killed almost certainly refers to journalists actively reporting on the war, embedded in units, the ones with passes. They are actively linked to orgs so when they die they're accounted for as a killed journalist.

I think including every single death of a civilian who happened to be a journalist but wasn't working as one would be too literal an interpretation.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Even then, the number of official German, Japanese, and North Vietnamese journalists that died is not included and presumably not small. The WWII and Vietnam casualty counts are for the journalists of the stronger power fighting a war on its enemy's territory so I suppose it could be meaningful to compare them to the number of Israeli journalists killed, but they're not really relevant in the context of Palestinian journalists.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Yeah I think this is comparing recorded intentional journalist assassinations in WW2 and the Vietnam war vs total journalists killed in the Gaza war. It's pretty well corroborated that some of the journalist deaths are assassinations but we don't know the concrete numbers obviously.