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As we start to see more users join, it's inevitable to see trolls (especially low-effort trolls) making more of an appearance and trying to be controversial and noticed.

Best just to scroll past them. They want to spark unwinnable arguments and rack up negative rep. If something seems absurdly ridiculous or inciteful, just move on. It's not even worth down voting.

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[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, but someone rocking up to a news magazine just to post “Trump won and everyone knows it” with no news article is trolling. Some of these folks are trolls trying to piss people off.

[–] elscallr@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If that's what the people in that magazine want to see they're not being trolled at all. Now if that shit leaks out, then yeah I'm 100% with you.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It’s not what people in that magazine “want to see.” Every post save the troll post linked to a news article, with little to no commentary. Thus the “News” name.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they want to see that, they can start their own instance. No one is obligated to host them.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Can I come over to your house and shit in your hair?" said the pigeon.

"No thank you. I'd rather you do that somewhere else." said the man.

"Censorship! Triggered! Snowflake!" Said the pigeon. Then he shitted in the man's hair anyway.

[–] elscallr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, and if the instance operators decide that I respect it. Just saying it's not up to me, or you, or the person I replied to.

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even among people who like trump, there are plenty of people who know that he lost the election.

Even if Biden cheated (and I'm not saying he did), people who cheat to win elections are called the winner of the election. Laws tend to fine campaigns for cheating rather than changing the outcome of the election.

As an example where a campaign was fined for malfeasance during a campaign, the Clinton campaign was fine for misbehavior in the 2016 election related to the steele dossier https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/30/dnc-clinton-campaign-fine-dossier-spending-disclosure-00021910

However, although that example was of a losing campaign, up in my home country of Soviet canuckistan, several election cycles ago the conservative Stephen Harper government was fined for election fraud, and that's all that happened. They were officially in charge and they stayed that way until the election of Justin Trudeau in 2015.

Typically, lawmakers want election issues to be dealt with by the electorate, they're extremely extremely wary about stepping in and changing elections on their own.

While we're on the topic though, I would like to remind everybody that it is extremely typical for the losing side of an election to claim that the other side cheated. In 2000, there were plenty of people pointing out fuckiness in the supreme Court decision that ended George W. Bush the election, and in 2004 election machines were singled out as a potential method of cheating by the Democrats when John Kerry lost the presidential election, and in 2016 there were lots of cries saying that there was election interference that led to the election of Donald Trump.

[–] Hellsadvocate@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey children, yes this is a Prime example of a troll.

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think so?

Seems like an awfully high effort post to be just a troll. Maybe it's just that other people don't have the same views as you do.

[–] Hellsadvocate@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey little Jimmy looks like you have a question?

Oh Jimmy, it's not always about the effort or length of a post that defines a troll. A troll is someone who purposefully stirs up conflict or posts inflammatory or off-topic messages to distract and control the conversation, often eliciting emotional responses.

Check it out: So, imagine you're playing with your favorite toy car, alright? Then someone, let's call them SJ_Zero, comes over and says, "Oh, that's a nice car, but did you see this super-duper rocket? And oh, did I tell you about this ultra-cool submarine I once had? And oh, there was this time when I played with a helicopter..." and on and on they go!

What happened to your toy car? Poof, it's forgotten, lost in the whirl of rockets, submarines, and helicopters. That's what SJ_Zero is doing here, taking us on a whirlwind tour of election history, far away from our original chat about the 2020 election and how Trump lost.

So you get it Jimmy? And that's why you shouldn't feed the trolls.

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago

You mean like a whole aside about accusations of trolling?

I guess I'll take your advice.