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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I struggle to grasp how games can even fill up all of that disk space. Do they store all their textures uncompressed?

[–] kbity@kbin.social 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Uncompressed textures and uncompressed audio for all languages at once (this started with the 8th gen consoles because their shitty CPUs couldn't handle real-time decompression), so a lot of space is being taken up by audio that's never used in languages you don't understand because at some point in the last 20 years the gaming industry forgot how to create checkbox installers.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Titanfall started that, iirc. I wouldn't mind so much if they let you choose which languages you want installing.

At least some of the PS5 hardware is adding compression back again, so of those games are smaller on PS5 than on PS4.

CoD is an unoptimised piece of shit though. Their business model appears to be snuffing out the competition by filling your drive so you can't play anything else. The last Activision game I installed was the Tony Hawk remaster. I have no interest in CoD at all.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

fitgirl repacks come with optional lang data

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

8th gen? Compression worked fine on much shittier hardware. It shouldn't be hard to decompress audio in memory.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I make VRChat avatars and I've looked at the models for COD characters and weapons before.

The sheer amount of material slots on those things is crazy. Like a whole ass material for a tiny texture that's just like, the walkie talkie on a character. It's so unessciary and while excess materials isn't the only reason the game is unoptimized, it's very telling of how much optimizing they actually do (basically none).

[–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like a whole ass material for a tiny texture that's just like, the walkie talkie on a character.

What? Are they using some special non-PBR effects?

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah just don't like uv unwrapping and mapping properly I'm guessing 💀

[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they do UV unwrapping anyway?

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That's why I said properly, like they're not fitting a bunch of things onto one big map, but instead have a bunch of little ones.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've played gorgeous indie games that take up less than a gig. Surely we can do better than 100+GB for a shooter.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

btw size of wii u/switch games is pretty impressive.

BOTW is 10-15 gb with all dlcs and updates. (depends on console (wiiu/switch) and exact version)
TOTK is ~18gb and is the largest official Nintendo game
Mario Odyssey is just 5gb

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And they look fantastic, though the art style certainly helps a ton.

I generally prefer indie games, so anything larger than 20GB feels huge. Most of the games I play are 5-15GB, and then something like RDR2 or Mass Effect Legendary comes along at > 100GB, which is about a dozen other games worth of space. Yeah, space is cheap and all that, but it just seems so unnecessary to have a good time.

[–] Duallight@lemmy.today 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In a small defense of ME legendary, it is 3 different games in one package. Still Annoying, especially since storage space isn't the only factor. Internet speed can really ruin your gaming plans

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It should really be three separate games. I'm unlikely to play all three back to back, yet I need to download the whole thing to play any of them.

The same is true for COD, if I only want to play the campaign, I still need to download all the MP stuff (or so I heard, I don't play COD).

[–] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

though the art style certainly helps a ton.

I can speculate 90% of space is taken up by lightmaps.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I recommend you to play Xonotic. It takes 1GB on disk and looks good.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Cool, it's open source too!

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

Yes and audio files as well