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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

We're not all idiots.

A month ago, Ohio voters added reproductive rights to our constitution. Now, abortion is guaranteed to the point of fetal viability. Beyond that point, you just need the medical opinion of a single doctor that the abortion would improve the health of the mother (including her mental health) to secure an abortion.

If this woman gets on a plane to Cleveland this morning, she can be back in Texas tonight, minus a doomed fetus.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I would never say that everyone is an idiot. Just that your system of governance is badly constructed.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's a beta that went to production.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the biggest bugs aren't being patched.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The code went live and we have upgrades and patches ready to go, but first we need product manager approval from 50 stadiums full of competing tribes of angry baboons.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And the weirdest part is that people vote for the baboons to go into the stadiums to approve the patches!

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Well, the baboons made the rules so we have to vote for them

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It was a temporary solution thats now the foundation

[–] automattable@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn’t Texas make it illegal to go out of state to get around their bans?

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is S.B 8. It is a completely messed up bill that allows anyone to sue someone for $10,000, plus court and attorney fees, for performing an abortion or aiding or abetting in an abortion. In other words, if someone gets an abortion, anyone can sue them, their doctor, the nurses, the Uber driver who took them to the clinic, their husband who agreed with their decision, or anyone else who could be said to have helped them get an abortion.

One bit of good news is that, in one case, a judge decided that you need to have standing to sue. That means that in order to sue someone under the law, you need to be personally affected by the abortion.

San Antonio judge Aaron Hass dismissed Gomez’ case Thursday, and that dismissal pointed to a central problem with S.B. 8: it has the potential to allow the wrong people to wage abortion lawsuits. Hass announced the dismissal of Gomez’s case from the bench and explained that plaintiffs like Gomez, who have no connection to the prohibited abortion and have not been harmed by it, do not have standing suit under the statute.

More good news is that the law has been challenge before the Texas supreme court. They have heard the case in in coming weeks or months they will make a decision.

[–] automattable@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Ok so not illegal— just too expensive for the poors. Sounds just right for the GOP.

Thanks for the detailed reply!

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aren't Ohio reps fighting the new constitutional amendment and it's not officially in the Constitution even though it should be?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they are fighting it; no, they have not been able to block it from being added to the constitution. It became effective as of Thursday, December 7th.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 2 points 10 months ago

Nice! Glad they couldn't block it from being added after 30 days. Hopefully people keep up the fight and get rid of these anti-democracy assholes.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What about a financially poor 14 year old who was raped? She couldn't do that on her own. This woman is challenging the system for others.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago

In Ohio, she could. No need to even notify her parents let alone gain their consent. That's my point: we aren't all monsters on this side of the Atlantic, even in bright red states like Ohio.

Kansas protected reproductive rights through constitutional referendum. It doesn't get much redder than Kansas.

I don't even think this is Texas or Texans. I think this is Ken Paxton.