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Human hibernation has made some strides recently. I think a year or so ago a Wired mag article said the only significant unsolved problem is shivering. They have a cocktail of drugs that makes hibernation possible apart from the fact that people shiver at low temps.

If they solve this, I will gladly prefer to be shipped as cargo on a sail boat or airship so long as someone tends to a heart monitor to ensure a few heartbeats per min or whatever is still happening. No more Gestappo airport security, stresses of delayed flights, screaming babies, people eating Camembert cheese within 5 meters of you. You age at like ⅓ the rate in hibernation (or something like that). I’d gladly trade a week of reduced useful lifetime in exchange for a later death (experiencing more of the future than otherwise possible). The idea of being able to easily flip the middle finger to Boeing would also be a nice perk. (#boycottBoeing)

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[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You trust those private systems every time you visit the hospital. It’s not ideal but I think a lot of people trust doctors and nurses more readily than they would trust Boeing not to sweep fatal flaws under the rug and cheap out on training pilots about those flaws. If that sounds strangely specific, well yes, it’s specific indeed. (check out the Boeing 737 Max fiasco if you’re not familiar)

Hibernation reduces probability of medical emergency

Also consider that you’re much less likely to have a medical emergency in hibernation. What happens now if you have a medical emergency on a 6 hour flight? You’re fucked if you need something other than CPR or basic medicine. In hibernation problems are much less likely to manifest than when your metabolic rate is normal (not counting what the stresses of air travel do to metabolic rate).

Hibernation increases survival rate if there is an issue

One of the main applications for human hibernation is actually medical emergencies. People being transported in ambulances are sometimes seconds away from death. So medics want to be able to put you on ice immediately & induce hibernation so that every second stretches to tens of seconds so they have time to get you to the hospital.

Thus your mortality rate drops if you’re hibernating on ground/sea transport as opposed to flying without hibernation.

UPDATE

Great timing! Shortly after saying you trust #Boeing with your safety more than medics, there is yet another safety scandal with the #737max.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The infrastructure and labor cost of adding hospital onto a plane ticket is an extreme step for reducing aircraft emissions.

Can I just get a train and a culture that supports it instead?

[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you think the infra cost is high for putting a doctor or nurse onboard a vessel, just wait until you see the price tag for tunneling under the Atlantic or Pacific ocean.

BTW, I don’t think anyone here proposed hibernation on an airplane. The hibernation would of course be done on the slow means of transport (train, cargo ship, airship) to get people off airplanes. IOW, it’s a way to get what you’re asking for: a culture that supports ground transport.

Obstacles to getting a train culture todayThe main problem with asking for a culture of train travel across very long distances /today/ is that it’s a very expensive culture (both in time and money). The trains are also a disaster in Europe administratively (different prices¹ for the same train purchased from different vendors, train tickets in Germany unbuyable unless you run their proprietary smart phone app, exclusive discounts only for app users, international rail ticketing site pushes CAPTCHAs [Belgium], GDPR-violating cookies [Germany], etc). In Belgium even a short 1½—3 hour trip is less than half the price by bus than by slow train, and the bus is about the same speed as the slow train. I’ve quit trains for these reasons.

Getting a train culture in the US is also a tall ask considering how poorly networked it is. Many major cities have no train station for passenger trains. Amtrack is the only game in town and it’s slow diesel engines. When people take an Amtrack, it’s really just for the 1-off novelty of experiencing a train.

  1. the EU tried to implement a policy to get consistent train pricing several years ago and that still has not happened.
[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

Dont know where you live, but in GER most Hospitals are state owned and controlled. I wouldnt do something like full narcose in a private hospital lol.