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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You realize that it was the Sovjets that turned WW2 around and paid most of the blood for Europe to be freed from the Nazis? About 20 Million of the victims of WW2 were Sovjets. About another 10 Million were Chinese. The western Allies had a very chill WW2 compared to what these countries and their people sacrificed against the Germans and Japanese.

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You realize that the Soviets were in Hitler's side when shit started and wanted to annex a chunk of Poland and the east?

You also realize that your prime example dates back 80 years?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

The Sovjets never were on Hitlers side. Hitler was very clear from the beginning what he thinks of the communists, that he mingled into a "jewish bolshevik" world conspiracy. The Hitler Stalin pact was to buy the SU time to prepare for an attack from the Nazis.

Also 80 years is not a long times in historical terms, when the measure is "ever". Incidently a lot of the turning two blind eyes unconditional support for Israel now is justified with the Holocaust that was in exactly the same period of time.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

They only paid a human price because the soviets literally threw people at the problem. We can see the same problem today in the war in Ukraine. They actively either don’t arm, or barely arm soldiers and then expect them to take positions against well armed and trained soldiers. The allies were supplying tanks, small arms and other supplies to the Soviets. Let’s also not wash over the fact that the soviets literally allowed hitler to develop weapons in their territory as long as they benefited from it. They only lost as many troops because their leadership was stupid and ineffective.