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[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (5 children)

i am more worried about the old videos wipe thats coming soon

Sooo many peoples uploaded memories and documentaries are going to becone lost forever

[–] zovits@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder why they would kill old videos instead of just removing those 10-hour plus loops of the same song over and over again that nobody watches. You'd think those giant loop videos would be taking up far more space.

[–] pokemaster787@ani.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’d think those giant loop videos would be taking up far more space

Someone above posted an article saying they aren't actually. But you'd be surprised at how little space those 10 hour videos can actually take. They're highly compressible since they're just the same still image and the same audio on repeat. A good compression algorithm (which Google certainly is using) would basically compress it into one instance of the song and how many times to repeat it (more complex than that, but that's the idea)

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Sometimes they are, if it's just audio and a static image. Some of them definitely are not that though. The ones with visualizers or full music videos or the like are not nearly as compressible.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

10-hour plus loops of the same song over and over again that nobody watches.

I tend to fall asleep to one of those videos of being on the beach with ocean sounds, so /shrug.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So to combat use cases like this, why not just add a repeat option? There would be no break if it cached the beginning again.

Also just download the audio you want and loop it yourself. It would take roughly 2 minutes and use way less bandwidth.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So to combat use cases like this, why not just add a repeat option? There would be no break if it cached the beginning again.

The first two minutes are an ad, and having a loud voice talking to you all of a sudden in your bedroom while you are asleep tends to wake you up.

Also just download the audio you want and loop it yourself. It would take roughly 2 minutes and use way less bandwidth.

With compression techniques being as they are today, I truly don't even worry about the bandwidth.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But manually looping any part of it inside the video which you can do past the first 2 minutes would still not be an ad. Also, who doesn't use an ad blocker on YouTube? All of those problems that you listed have incredibly easy solutions that you can execute with zero training.

And realistically if they are looking for profit (and they absolutely are) I still see no reason why they would keep these up. The benefits are absolutely minimal at best and the drawbacks are quite large.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But manually looping any part of it inside the video which you can do past the first 2 minutes would still not be an ad. Also, who doesn’t use an ad blocker on YouTube?

My YouTube app on my phone, which doesn't have an ad blocker. And as far as I know, there's no way to restart a video at a certain timestamp, it just restarts from the very beginning. I'd be glad to hear otherwise though?

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah! A few ways to do things:

  1. Go into the YouTube "three dots" options and you can "Create Clip" which will allow you to shave out or repeat any length of video you want. If you shave it out, you can make it private and just repeat the single video. and / or
  2. Use any YouTube download site (say like this one) and just get the MP3 or video which you can play over and over using any media player. and / or
  3. If you're on a phone, use a third-party YouTube app like GrayJay and it'll block ads.

If you have questions, ask away!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

[–] isgleas@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not the same as 10hr nyan cat or bacon pancakes

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

10-hour plus loops of the same song over and over again that nobody watches.

I tend to fall asleep to one of those videos of being on the beach with ocean sounds, so /shrug.

Not the same as 10hr nyan cat or bacon pancakes

Definately not the same. Also, what "nobody watches" is in the eye of the beholder.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] monkE@feddit.ch 5 points 11 months ago
[–] VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who's going to wipe the old videos?

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Google’s going to delete inactive google accounts. So if you see a channel whose last upload was six years ago, there’s a good chance it’s about to be deleted

[–] VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Thanks. I looked it up and read that Google decided according to the latest news they're not deleting YouTube accounts with video uploads. We'll see.

[–] Sacha@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh I suppose my diseased father's small channel with a few of his live music performances will be deleted. Lovely.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

By the look of it they won't be but I would make an offline copy just to be safe. Maybe re-upload it on a newer account/website.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Save it bro to your cloud

[–] manwichmakesameal@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Goddamnit, I didn't even think about this when I saw they were doing the mass delete. Here's to hoping that they'll at least keep the videos up. Waaaay too much stuff on YT to lose it all. Anyone know if archive.org is backing them up?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know if archive.org is backing them up?

At this point you got to imagine that archives hardware infrastructure has to be as big or bigger than Google's.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man this stuff should not be left to the hands of random corporations.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I was just speaking towards server hardware and infrastructure, and their costs, and not making a value judgement on corps vs. not-corps.