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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As soon as my FP 3 dies they will hopefully have a new phone with a headphone jack. In 10 years or so.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago

Don't forget to let them know that at the various consumer surveys they send regularly. But I wouldn't hold my breath...

[–] Mo5560@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I'd probably buy a phone without a camera before I'd buy a phone without a headphone jack.

I was sold on the idea of a fairphone but that's a dealbreaker to me. I very briefly owned a phone without a headphone jack (borrowed from a friend while my current one was in repair), having to think of that stupid adapter all the time was hell.

[–] onion@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can't you leave the adapter on the heatphone cable?

[–] Mo5560@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

I have 2 main problems with that:

  • My headphone cable is long and sometimes it gets tangled in all sorts of places. The adapters are small and flimsy, if I leave them on the cable I assume they'll break soon. I have no problems with a broken headphone cable as it is an easy and cheap fix. I don't think the adapters are seriously fixable tho.
  • Everything else uses a headphone jack everywhere. I have yet to see a use for USB-C to audio jack anywhere else. Which makes sense as USB is digital and audio is analog. I assume many people have no use for headphones outside of their phones, I am not one of those people.
[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what I really don't get about all the people in this thread. No matter how many headphones you have, the adapter is like 10$ at most. Just get as many as you need to always have one where you need it

[–] Mo5560@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't intend on turning this into some sort of fight but to me your comment has big

"I don't see the problem why can't other people just have enough money"

vibes (Also I checked and an adapter costs me 12$ on Amazon). I don't think you intended it this way, so I'll shut up now.

As to my actual answer:

  • Leaving it on headphones is not an option to me (I explained it above)
  • Buying one for every jacket might work, but what do I do in summer?
  • Please correct me on this but afaik it's not standardized
    • USB output is usually digital, while headphone obviously require an analog signal. I assume the vendors just use certain pins in the USB jack for transmitting the analog signal while keeping the rest grounded.
    • I know for certain that Samsung adapters don't work on OnePlus phones for example.

I could go on, but there's honestly no point. We're different people with different uses for our phones/headphones. I won't buy a phone without a headphone jack as long as I still have wired headphones.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Adapters are literally <5 USD including shipping on AliExpress. At that point it's not about the price if you're buying a phone anyways, because the cheap phones haven't abandoned the aux jack.

Also the digital usb adapters should work on any phone (and computer), unlike the "dumb" ones that trigger the DAC inside the phone (if there is one).