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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

He could pass on the crown to his kids, or an even worse fascist could exploit the power vacuum and take over.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's why I hope it happens during the election and the ensuing chaos means they can't consolidate around a candidate. Dems would just reshuffle if Biden bit it mid campaign because so many leftists vote Democrat because it's the lesser of two evils but the Republicans eat their own.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

🤔 I wonder what would happen if someone assassinated Trump right before the election. Neither you nor I would ever do that, but say someone did. What is the protocol?

Or Biden, for that matter? Or say the Trumptards attacked enough polling places throughout the U.S. to seriously disrupt the election and possibly even completely fuck it up. Is there a legal protocol in place? Any election clerks in the house?

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well assassination of a candidate duration an election has some precedent. But it doesn't happen often for good reason. If you assassinate a political figure you make them essentially a martyr for their campaign or ideals which stops people thinking rationally and doubling down on their emotional reaction to the assassinee's party or general ideology. People put aside differences to "carry the torch".

Honestly killing Trump and pining it on leftist bogeymen would be a move I could see some Republicans doing. They have basically primed their base to accept any shlock they want to pass as news and if they go full authoritarian and get enough support on board to basically ignore democratic checks and balances...

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I really, really think it greatly behooves western states to try to secede from the U.S. next year.

Like the right wing is completely intractable at this point and compromising with them will only bring suffering so it would benefit the left if California, Oregon, Washington simply left and formed their own country. They have big enough economies where they could do it and survive on their own.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, I am Canadian so dealing with the US as a foreign country with outsized influence is kind of nothing new to me. I think you'll find the right wing just follows you wherever you go you just change the terms under which you deal with it. American media is a menace here and we essentially have to deal with US gun pollution and American style political discourse from our own citizens even though our Constitutional freedoms and government are completely different than the States.

I do feel like America's problems are rooted deep in the outsized weight you give your founding fathers and the mythologized history of the two wars that played out on your soil. Breaking free from those fetters and actually updating your constitution to reflect the modern world and making your system more properly democratic using the advancements of political, structural and philosophical thought that's advanced since the early foundation and adoption of democracy damn near 150 years ago sounds like an amazing idea, buit that require sussession to actually Kickstart that process.

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