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YouTube disallowing adblockers, Reddit charging for API usage, Twitter blocking non-registered users. These events happen almost at the same time. Is this one of the effects of the tech bubble burst?

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[–] YourHuckleberry@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Those folks will re-upload old content onto the new platforms.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this isn't likely to happen. Video files are huge (tens or hundreds of gigabytes) and many creators delete old videos once they are uploaded to Youtube so that they don't run out of space or keep having to buy more and more drive space. Even tech YouTubers like MKBHD pull clips from their old videos directly off YouTube because they no longer have the originals (he did a podcast talking about this)

[–] C_M@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is stupid. I get that smaller creators it maybe lesss feasible to backup. Because they don't make enough money. But a video file, certainly if you put same compression as yt, isn't that big. Say one gb per vid, that is 30 gb a month (say times 3 for redundency) you have less than 1tb a month, of lees than 60 bucks of storage drives a month. Small price pay for someone that has a million dollar studio to not be trusting on yt for your videos. But thay also disn't talk about the risk of putting your 2fa in the cloud, so i am not that surprised

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many do not have million dollar studios though.

[–] C_M@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

I get that. Thats why i included that it is a bit different for smaller creators. So yes, we cant assume there are a lot of backups for if youtube decide to go more evil. But I think of you make your money with youtube, you should invest in storing your own backups. If only for if your channel get hacked and they delete al your videos and youtube cant/wont help to restore them. And that is why i get a bit sad if a big channel says something like this, because in my eyes its very bad practice to relay on yt for your backups. ( Assuming they dont do a seperate backup amd only just rip from yt because of ease of access).

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not all of them. What about the ones who are no longer active on the platform? The ones people forgot about? The ones who have died? You think there will be 100% coverage? In the case of YouTube, many channel operators don't actually keep a local copy of all their videos, since the files would be too big. So the only copy is the one on YouTube.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the ones who are no longer active on the platform? The ones people forgot about? The ones who have died? You think there will be 100% coverage?

Maybe that's not that much of a bad thing. The day had the same length before YouTube was a thing, and people spent 100% of their time. Differently. Some things might have been pushed out of sight by YouTube, and a dying giant can create room for new things to grow.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Library of Alexandria burning down wasn't a good thing. Any time human knowledge that has been collected gets scattered it's bad

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get your point, but the comparison barely holds. The Library of Alexandria had many unique works of cultural and scientific importance. YouTube is full of mundane content, mostly entertainment. Especially the scientific parts are merely re-tellings of other works which do not live on the same platform. Nobody stores their scientific findings on YouTube alone. Many creators do not upload to YouTube alone.

The more people value a specific video, the higher the chance it got copied elsewhere. So for the important parts, we probably have decent coverage.

[–] WhiteTiger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

undefined> The Library of Alexandria had many unique works of cultural and scientific importance. YouTube is full of mundane content, mostly entertainment.

Are you serious? The vast majority of culturally significant artifacts were, at the time of their creation, mundane and/or entertainment.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Are you serious?

Yes. From my point of view, you overstate the importance of YouTube or understate the importance of TLoA. But since we're merely exchanging differences of opinion, we might as well agree to disagree at this point.

Luckily, you can store weeks and months of important material on a disk worth a few dozen meals, or join a group who already does it.

[–] DickPuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What about all the old art and other stuff that hasn’t been kept around? They probably weren’t worth preserving through the ages, if it’s good enough we’ll see it again

[–] nuachtan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago