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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Hamas is shit for putting terror and attacking Israel above taking care of their own civilians. Israel is shit for mass-execution of innocent civilians.

They're both shit, but we all know this will only end with Israel exterminating an entire population, which is even shittier.

[–] Orionza@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The reason Hamas is in existence is because their peoples' homes being taken and the Palestinians being killed constantly, for years. What would you do if your nation has lived in their land for ages, and a people came and took your family homeland and killed your family, and took neighborhoods and whole swaths of areas, then penned you up so that you couldn't exit or enter your country without their permission...don't you think you'd rise up with some other warriors to do something, anything? That's what Hamas is. It is not a terrorist organization to go out and cause terror and trouble. It is the fighting representative of a beaten people.

[–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It is not a terrorist organization to go out and cause terror and trouble.

Did you not notice the events that started this recent shit? Hamas certainly engages in terrorism, as does the IDF.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There’s an old adage that one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.

Allowing a label to dictate your view of the events is naive at best.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always say "if you look at it from the current government point of view, Luke Skywalker was just a terrorist."

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Darth Vader blowing up Alderaan with the Death Star was justified self defense.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you not notice the giant wall around Gaza and the starvation and israeli bombing of their infrastructure before October the 7th?

Are you gonna call the Ukrainians terrorists too for blowing up the train track that connects Russia to China?

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 months ago (14 children)

but we all know this will only end with Israel exterminating an entire population,

It's so goddamn hilarious that because of history and The Holocaust we aren't allowed to bring up how deliciously ironic it is that a group of people that were rounded up for extermination are summarily rounding up a group of people for extermination.

I can't wait to see how this plays out in history.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

Who's not allowed to bring it up? I'll say it all day. I give no fucks that Israel doesn't like it, fuck them.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Technically, Hamas aren't Palestinian in origin to begin with, they're from a group that once controlled Egypt and their power over Gaza Strip was maintained by the Israeli Government via various means including directly being funded by them and neighboring nations. So, it isn't their people. The don't give a fuck if Palestine faces genocide, never have.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Society of the Muslim Brothers first founded in Egypt in 1928 was able to establish in the neighboring nation in 1973 as Mujama al-Islamiya Islamic charity affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which later became Hamas in name in 1987. They also were the most prominent political group in Egypt from 1967 until 2013, when their president over Egypt was overthrown.

Hamas is from Suuni Islamist Egypt, for Suuni Islamist Egypt.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but that doesn't support your claim.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My claim is that Hamas' Origins were outside of Palestine, that Hamas doesn't give a fuck about Palestinian Genocide. I gave you a concise uncontested timeline of their formation. Maybe you're just too stupid to get it.

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