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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

they arent choosing it.

They are being forced into it because its the only fucking way to have a chance at NOT being homeless and crippled.

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Oh no, make no mistake, I chose it.

However, even if I wanted them, how the fuck does one even afford them?

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't get it twisted, many of us absolutely chose to not have kids because we don't want them.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You can both be right, you know. Many of us also agree with what this person was saying.

I used to want kids. I will refuse to have kids unless I can afford them, and until I can GUARANTEE that their human rights won't be stripped away by the whims of stupid people who are completely disconnected from reality. I won't bring a new life into a world that's rushing towards climate oblivion, either.

I'll sterilize myself before I'm ever forced to have kids.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 11 months ago

And there is part of the problem in the eyes of those with power.... That thought that you have a choice in sterility. A choice to not have kids didn't used to exist and you attempting to keep warm and have some pleasure basically guaranteed that you would have more eventually. So that must be stripped in order for you to continue the cycle of having kids not by choice and add to the population that gets fucked over.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

OP: everyone in group x does y

Me: not everyone

You: you're both right - not everyone

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[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Agreed. These people are trying to leverage something many of us absolutely aren't interested in to push for necessities such as fixing inflation, universal Healthcare etc. Except that if those things were fixed it wouldn't change the birth rate much at all. That's why Republicans are forcing people to be breeding machines. Educated well off people know better to engage in an activity that is detrimental to their physical and mental health. And making a human means you're responsible for them until you or they die. That's the biggest mistake people make. They make a human, then wash their hands of then.