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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some people are allergic to nuts. Some to shellfish. And sure, a small portion probably to MSG. That's fine, absolutely be conscious of what you eat and how it makes you feel.

There's a GULF of difference between that statement and saying "msg is bad because it causes a reaction in some people" though. Are peanuts dangerous? Are shellfish dangerous? Because with the metrics you're providing, you have to label them as just as dangerous to the general public as it sounds like you want for aspartame, msg, etc.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is my last comment to you, and I'm going to say this only once as well. Not causing symptoms right away isn't an indication that it's safe. It could still cause long term effects in a cumulative way.

Dr Claude Lambré, member of EFSA’s Panel on Food Additives and Nutrient Sources Added to Food, and Chair of the working group tasked with the re-evaluation, said: “Based on the available evidence, we are confident that the newly derived group ADI for glutamic acid and glutamates is protective of consumers’ health, as it is below the doses that have been associated with certain effects in humans, such as headache, raised blood pressure and increased insulin levels.”

https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/170712

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

You don't have to reply, I will anyway so that everyone else gets a more clear picture.

I'm not advocating for putting anything into your body without thought. That'd be dumb. I'm merely pointing out there's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between being aware, and being overly reactive, or advocating for really safe (in moderation) additives be banned or similar.

The article you sent states "Currently, there is no numerical safe intake level ( ADI ) specified for glutamic acid and glutamates used as food additives in the EU." This is not stating that a safe level does not exist, but that the government has not determined what it was (prior to that article). They then go on to state that they have set a safe level at 30mg/kg body weight. For context, using the average body weight of males, 90.62 (rounding to 90), this comes out to 2700 mg. Salt's RDA is 2300 mg. Sugar is 4800mg (48g). So, we can conclude that msg, as it is, is between sugar and salt in terms of detrimental effect, at least as far as current science tells us.

By all means, limit your intake. That's your right. Don't compare it to a food allergy, though. Or try to tell other people they're wrong for coming to a different conclusion.