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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

“the best way to approach urbanism and biking to conservatives is to say ‘I’m for traditional neighborhoods that use independent transportation methods without government overreach’ or ‘I want fiscally responsible transportation methods’.”

I mean, sure. And that might stick for a conversation or a few days. But come back in a week, after their ears have been pumped with Agenda 21 China Takeover Shari Law Communist Prison State talk radio gibberish. You'll be right back to square one.

At some point, it isn't the quality of message but the quantity. If you want to trick your Evangelical Homophobic Constitution Party voting uncle into supporting 15 minute cities, you need to configure his AM radio to play Well There's Your Problem podcast episodes in place of whatever crap Clear Channel is transmitting.

[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well there's our problem. There's no way you'd get my Evangelical Homophobic Constitution Party voting uncle to even listen to There's Your Problem because within the first two minutes they'll say "So the problem is Capitalism," and he'd go back to Limbaugh reruns.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The first two minutes of any WTYP episode is Rocz or Liam fighting with the recording interface, to comic effect.

And I think that's one of the selling points of a lot of these indie leftist shows. They're entertaining in a way the old grouchy wingers aren't. Admittedly, it's very Millennial/Zoomers humor. So maybe Alice joking about bombing the local golf course isn't going to be Uncle's speed.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is Well There's Your Problem very leftist? I listened to a couple episodes and I got more of a politically uninvolved vibe, so I got bored

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Is Well There’s Your Problem very leftist?

YMMV. The crew feels like the left-most fringe of /r/neoliberal if you aged them 20 years, gave a few of them actual experience in civil/architectural engineering rather than just State Uni B-school, and shaved off the knee-jerk hatred of Bernie Sanders / Jeremy Corbyn.

I got more of a politically uninvolved vibe, so I got bored

They tend to be more on the technical side of the FALGSC spectrum, so you get less "this is the politician/union leader who you should be organizing with" and more "this is the highly technical reason why you shouldn't let your nation's largest failson administer the construction of a transcontinental railway".

I enjoy it because I'm genuinely interested in the science/engineering/math behind a lot of these industrial scale failures. It is cathartic, particularly when I'm grinding through my own workplace engineering/accounting crisis of the day.