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How would you feel if Beehaw left the Fediverse? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago by suspended@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I am one of the admins of Beehaw and I'm trying to get some feedback on our potential move.

Let's start out with a little Beehaw history before judgements are passed, please.

A handful of us were beta testing Tildes when we decided to have discussions on a Discord server.

We decided that our 'Northern Star' or guiding principle would culminate as 'Be Nice' with purposefully vague/flexible interpretations. Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.

We talked for a little over a year and some of our members became impatient. Then someone stepped in to suggest a couple of platforms that we could consider getting started with.

One of those platforms was Lemmy. None of us knew, at that time, anything about ActivityPub.

During the Reddit exodus (surrounding the API outcry and blackout), our instance exploded. We were, initially, crippled by the mass amounts of users seeking refuge.

Thankfully, someone stepped in and volunteered hundreds of hours of work to stabilize our instance and refine it further.

After many hours of talks, it became clear to us that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

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[+] TiffyBelle@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It would be better if the protocol had the capability for stuff like access controls where you could require that external users request permission to join your local communities and to be able to post there (where the moderation queues would show such requests per server). That way you could maintain visibility and protocol compatibility and make it easy to link between discussions, while maintaining quality of communities.

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

So much this. Federation doesn't necessarily mean that other content has to be treated identically to one's own; if everything is just a big mix small instances don't make much sense for the user. Federation was supposed to make small cozy communities possible through freedom of movement, not kill them by drowning them out with generic content.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

It sounds like it is time to defederate. We'll miss the instance but we understand why it must be done