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https://mullvad.net/en/help/install-mullvad-app-linux

Trying to install VPN and these are the instructions Mullvad is giving me. This is ridiculous. There must be a more simple way. I know how to follow the instructions but I have no idea what I'm doing here. Can't I just download a file and install it? I'm on Ubuntu.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The comment section here is a perfect example of why people don't use Linux

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You got that right. So many contradictory comments for such a simple question.

That said, Linux for home use is a hobby and hobbyists expect a certain level of interest and basic commitment to learning. Also, the Linux community is a bit anti-Windows. So, coming on a Linux forum and complaining that a simple Linux task is too hard, basically because it isn't Windows and you didn't bother to read any documentation, pushes ALL the Linux nerd buttons, LOL.

Imagine going on a boardgame forum to complain that some super popular game is dumb because it isn't like a video game, and too complicated even though you didn't bother to read the game rules.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As a board game hobbyist, that happens all the time. Our community generally makes an effort to direct them to games with a lower weight and easier rules and encourages them to keep playing to grow the hobby.

That's not at all what happens with Linux.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Don't they just make a joke about Patchwork and move on?

[–] mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you recommend any good forums to look for board games?

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

BGG is all you need

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

+1 there is something nice about just downloading and double clicking an exe.

Maybe they should have a common file format for all distro that extracts, etc. for the current distro. I thought that was flatpak, but idk.

[–] bjwest@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

They have the .deb at the top of their download page, no need to install the PPA repository if you don't want. You can't get any more than "just downloading and double clicking an ~~exe~~ deb" than that on Ubuntu.

I will admit though, I wish there were an easier way to install PPAs.

[–] jaeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This comment here is a prefect example of being unhelpful and inflammatory.

You added nothing to the conversation but instead tried to be "clever" by doing the same tired old "angsty Linux vs. Windows shtick" that's been around for as long as GNU/Linux was a thing.

Other people at least offered an explanation or suggestion.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] jaeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

100% correct about what? That people trying to offer different bits of advice/explanations are driving people away? Even if some of the advice is not the best/contradict one another, it's still support being given to another user.

Comments like these don't say or do much of anything. They just finger wag and scold people for not being the "100% best Linux representative" they can be. Believe it or not, people who are in Linux communities aren't a monolith of perfect technological wisdom and understanding.

My problem isn't even with the basis behind the comment which I actually somewhat agree with. It's just framed in a cowardly way that obnoxiously blames community members for driving people away.

So yes comments like these are useless and the people who make them are lazy.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org -1 points 10 months ago

Clearly, for you, it's a bitter pill. I get it.