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[–] Sarla@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (44 children)

You can tell that this audience is primarily American because they still defend capitalism, even after being shafted by it over and over. Careful everyone, big bad socialism is going to take your kids and your wife!

Don't dare dream of something better, instead keep swallowing the propaganda of the state and its controlling elites.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man socialism keeps sounding better and better they will even take those pesky wife and kids off my hands/s.

But in serious most Americans don't know shit about socialism our capitalism they live under. Dumb fucks look at you with surprise when you mention our highway system would be considered socialist program.

[–] Feweroptions@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds interesting, what does that mean?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Roads and streets are funded 100% from taxs which make them a social program. I know not true 100% socialism but it's as close as the United States will allow.

Also most Americans always going on especially fucking Republicans and their voter base about how the government should be run like a business. But don't realize the government should never be ran as one.

The corruption already bad enough.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The closest you get in America to socialism is public libraries and free school meals. And they managed to make the latter controversial and, if not, incredibly shitty.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And the GOP and their far right cronies are trying to get public libraries shut down.

[–] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They should be forced to run their businesses as businesses - no more bailouts

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All these big names seriously run their businesses like social programs.

[–] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, run America like Elon runs Twitter. Absolutely brain dead

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which make them a social program. I know not true 100% socialism

This is part of the problem of people not knowing what socialism even is. Even the ancient slavery systems could have social programs (for example famed Roman grain handouts in Rome), and the first modern, universal state funded social programs were introduced in 1889 in German Empire. neither of them was by any means socialist because socialism is not when the government does stuff.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

socialism is not when the government does stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU

Just wanted to put the clip here. :D

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

American here and fuck capitalism.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Hey now, that's unfair!

As à Canadian, I can attest that we also blindly defend capitalism.

[–] RedCanasta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are poor and our freedoms are exploited, but at least we're free!

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That's right, real freedom is being able to scream into the void without actually having the power to improve your material conditions. :)

[–] Ookami38@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I don't swallow the propaganda, I don't swallow anything. We're hungry, man.

[–] IverCoder@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

You can swallow my 🍆 instead 😉

[–] Cfreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why complain when capitalism ruins something that it created? Isn't that how it works? Something else will come along and don't better or differently and people will flock to it until it sucks too.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Communism does not have a good track record in places like Poland. After the absolute shithole that the PRL was, I dont kniw how you except people to defend communism.

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[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Depends on what you mean by socialism. All systems have upsides and downsides. Late stage capitalism in the US has a lot of downsides, but workers taking over the means of production does not have a good track record.

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