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[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Urban planning for what is needed by the majority rather than demanded by the few.

Parking and roads in general are examples of induced demand.

Chances are whatever the size of the average parking space, people would buy cars too long or wide for them.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Chevy Suburban has been produced and sold well since 1960. This isn't a new dilemma, it's clearly shitty planning and most likely being amplified by people who don't own much of anything whining. I lived in that part of BC for 12 years, well familiar with how they'll try make themselves feel better about themselves via creating scenarios where they are morally superior, not broke losers.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More like people being called out for blocking roads because there's more of them. If you can't park in a space, park somewhere else.

If parking is difficult as a result, buy a smaller car or accept you're often going to walk further.

The average size of car has risen. That's not automatically something we have to accommodate. The people who bought larger cars always used to live with the consequences and should continue to.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's the sanctimonious wankery I was looking for.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

From someone defending big cars because some of them are old and doesn't understand the simple problem is they're becoming more common.

Look up "tragedy of the commons"

Do you not see how it applies?

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This from someone willfully ignoring these people pay their share of property and fuel.taxes that pay for all this, in many cases much more tax than people complaining

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If they literally take up more space than everyone else, then they're not paying their fair share unless we charge them more for parking.

It doesn't matter how much you pay for other things. Smokers and drinkers pay more tax on a relative scale, they don't get to take up more space on an airplane unless they buy another seat.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Human rights commission says different, motorcycles aren't charged less.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Motorcycles are charged less.

Human rights don't apply to parking.

And I'd be interested if the Human Rights were ruling against oversized passengers on airlines being charged extra for taking up more space.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Now you're just lying and being purposefully obtuse . Half the time the parking pricks fine bikers for sharing a spot.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Motorcycles pay the same at the meter so

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry you live in a silly place. Doesn't change the argument.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you like that logical rebuttal of your bullshit, huh? Take it.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can state irrelevant facts only true for a city or two if you like. You just end up wrong.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Having a hard time finding reasons your argument doesn't stand, huh? Lying about parking meters isn't really helping your case. Like wtf does that? Everyone knows how they work...except people who don't pay any fuel tax or parking fees at all.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've got nothing to rebut from you.

I've stated my case simply and you can't find a relevant rebuttal.

I don't think you understand, different places have different prices for parking. Where I live bikes get charged less.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You've done nothing of the sort, also you're lying, again.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's quite simple. Don't take up more space than provided.

If you want more space, park somewhere else.

You'll quickly find out how little people care about a minority of people with stupid vehicles, making stupid decisions by buying them, not being able to park conveniently.

Those people can take their business and nuisance elsewhere and the town will probably be better off as a result.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Your ride is a pedal bike, ain't it?