this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
863 points (97.3% liked)

News

23413 readers
2466 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an "unhinged" all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

That almost guarantees the rich and famous have their own supply line.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

I've been wondering how this could make sense as I've seen it claimed more and more often (feels very similar to the original war on drugs hysteria of the 80s and 90s), and I admit I haven't looked too deeply, but it seems this is once again something being overblown due to the war on drugs.

**But according to experts, nationwide drug studies, and the DEA's own data, fentanyl contamination in non-opioid drug supplies is exceedingly rare, and largely centered on a specific, highly-vulnerable subset of users. **Critics say this is why the alarm raised by health officials and law enforcement is so concerning: Authorities stoking broad, misleading fears of fentanyl poisoning the non-opioid drug supply marks a damaging mission creep in the battle to stem the opioid crisis. As we've seen previously in the War on Drugs, narratives based on fear, not data, distract policy makers, public health advocates, and even first responders away from those who are at real risk.

There is lots more info on the article linked, I just cherrypicked these two summary statements.

So why the misleading claims about recreational coke and cannabis users being at such a high risk?

On one hand, public health officials are doing what they're meant to do: warn the public about health risks. On the other, the scale of the concern around fentanyl contaminating the entire US drug supply is a very familiar narrative in the War on Drugs: the belief that dealers are governed not by economics but by malice, that users are helpless addicts, and that drug eradication is the only solution to these problems.

There's far more detail in the article.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xyzkp/the-truth-about-drug-dealers-lacing-cocaine-with-fentanyl

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously, you aren't around drugs/drug users that often. Fent definitely is a real issue. A lot of my drug using friends(that are still alive) have conspiracies about why its in everything thats "not natural"(weed/shrooms/etc) for lack of better term... But it has started to show up in everything the last decade. Uppers/downers/psychs. Shits ridiculous

But for anyone dabbling.. Test strips are cheap. Use them. Mix the shit up good and test, even if you gotta break down the rock. Your friends and family dont want to find you dead covered in your own shit, piss and puke cause you were to lazy and cheap to test the shit.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who needs repeat business? Just twirl your mustache at your dead clientele.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't that why they lace it? Cheaper and more addicting. Some are just stupid enough to put a bit too much and end up killing people.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

in non-opioid drug supplies

That's the qualifier. I have no idea why anyone would think marijuana would be contaminated with fentanyl.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but that qualifier seems to be missing on billboards I see and even in this statement:

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

This gives the impression that cannabis, LSD, shrooms, etc etc are also at risk here.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When most people (including journalists) speak about street drugs they're referencing heroin, cocaine, meth, etc ... not LSD, pot or mushrooms.

That seems an odd disqualification to me, but I'll take your word for it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Especially when there are (semi-) legalized dispensaries that have to go through certified laboratories. Hey, maybe that's the solution.