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[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don’t mind tipping for any hospitality service, but what I really hate about fast food and cafe tipping is that they often collect payment and push for a tip before the order was made incorrectly.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's a good point. I also hate that about food delivery services. I tip my drivers well, but I don't like that I'm often giving a good tip and not getting good service in return. If I'd have known I was going to get bad service, I would have tipped based on distance only and it would be significantly less.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes it’s just a no win scenario, even with a refund it’s still a bunch of hoops to jump through just to be hungry and annoyed, but at no cost to you!

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Been there too! My place isn't even that hard to find, but it pisses me off when my kids are looking forward to some Edo and it never comes. The refund is fine, but we're still hungry and now it's 8 pm, now what am I supposed to do?

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Or worse, a credit. Do you really expect me to keep your app on my phone?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you don't get good service on GrubHub or wherever, you just complain to their helpline. They give you refunds.

Honestly I have no issues with 95% of delivery orders. And usually the issue is the restaurant's fault.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my experience they don't refund if the driver is 20 minutes late because they went the wrong way or because they decided to take multiple orders. I've even had them drop my food off at the wrong place when I was standing right outside my door waiting for them. The people at the other place tried to tell the driver it didn't belong to them but he just left it with them and left, my neighbour gave it to me. When I complained Door Dash said that because I got my order there was nothing they could do.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Door Dash

That's the problem. Doordash sucks.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have the option of Door Dash or Skip. I try to only order from places that have in house delivery now.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you only have those options, it means you live in the middle of nowhere. How can you not have GrubHub or Uber Eats? Those are the only good ones. I would definitely use the in-house delivery before Doordash. Never even heard of the other one.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'm Canadian lol

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that blows for the consumer

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

95% success rate sucks? It sounds like this person just lives somewhere where all delivery sucks.

Plenty of people move to the middle of nowhere to "get away from it all" and then complain about the lack of service and conveniences. No, a few dollars tip is not enough to pay someone to drive 30 minutes to wherever you decided to live.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

The pattern of tip before consumption and call support to resolve is worse than nearly any alternative.

No comment on your second paragraph, not applicable

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tipping in cash upon delivery is still the best thing to do.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't remember the last time I paid anything in cash that wasn't my kids allowance. But on top of that Skip the Dishes ( I assume door dash too, but I used to drive for Skip so I can say them for sure) shows the driver how much they'll make on the delivery and if they don't like it they won't accept it. If I'm paying in cash then all they're being shown is the base distance rate and they'll all deny it.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

DoorDash does this as well, and there is no way to adjust the tip if you received bad service. There used to be, but DoorDash found their model worked better if they don’t allow you to reduce your tip after you put in the order.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This.

So counter-intuitive and self-defeating...

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Then they hand you a receipt from a printer that’s out of toner and you can’t even entertain the customer feedback route. It’ll dry up like the KFC and the Arby’s that occupied that lot before it.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

It's started to feel like a shake-down, honestly.

[–] DoomsdaySprocket@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Don’t forget that the autotip screens usually calculate that percentage after tax, which is wrong, and make it a pain in the ass to tip a percentage on pre-tax like it’s supposed to be done, so they’re dishonestly wringing even more cents out of you!