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[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The "good" news is that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism.

Such an absurd thing to say. I’m sure you’ll win lots of hearts and minds with your absolutist take 🙄

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seriously! I mean, what if we only exploit a little bit of others' labor? Isn't that ok?

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, and when nobody wants to be a farmer in your utopia, you aren’t going to “exploit” anybody to fix that problem right?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I'm not exploiting you if we agree on a price for something.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What a way to say absolutely nothing.

If Capitalism is inherently exploitative, then there is no perfectly ethical form of it. Therefore, it should be replaced with a better system.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you imagine there is a switch somewhere? Like, right now we’re “doing capitalism” and tomorrow we could flip the switch and do something else?

Everything exists on a spectrum, and you won’t find anything like “pure” capitalism anywhere.

Id also disagree with the premise of it being inherently exploitative, but that’s a different topic.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

No, I don't think you can just turn on the Socialism, Communism, or Anarchism button and do those. That's Utopianism. However, the idea that radical restructuring of society must be done via painfully slow iterative changes is also absurd and Utopian.

Capitalism is inherently exploitative, and that isn't a different topic. Complaining about me saying that there's no ethical consumption under Capitalism and yet saying you don't want to talk about why that's the case is just running away.

Capitalism is a bunch of mini-dictators competing, when we could have democratic and Cooperative control of industry instead.