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Say you're buying the really good stuff for $15/12oz. Thats roughly 340g of coffee, with each shot of espresso being 10g at most.
So $15/34 shots works put to just shy of $0.50/shot, and that for stunningly pricey coffee. You can get that to $0.25/shot with bulk premium coffee or cheaper stuff. Add boiling water, and that espresso shot is a cup of Americano.
Still pennies a cup, even if it's 25 or 50 of them.
$12 is also pennies just 1,200 of them
A standard espresso double shot, which is what you would get in anything but the smallest espresso drinks, is around 18g. I do find 10g to be enough for my morning 150ml cup (assuming some absorption by the coffee), but drip or immersion brewing extracts a bit more than espresso just due to the huge volume difference
You forget to add in the price of the equipment. A coffee grinder alone can set you back $4000. An espresso machine can go up to $30,000
Sure, you can get cheaper equipment but does that give you the same quality as you get in a coffee shop that does use that kind of kit?
And there is the space requirement as well.
Whoa, where are you getting these prices from? An espresso made from a $2000 machine will taste exactly like an espresso made from a $30,000 machine XD
AFAIK the quality of the grinder makes a huge difference at least, especially for espresso.
As for the prices, example of a high-end coffee machine: https://www.simonelliusa.com/Black-Eagle
High-end grinder: https://weberworkshops.com/products/eg-1
I honestly wouldn't know either way.
This topic kind of reminds me of the people who believe that they can taste and distinguish each one of dozens of notes within a bottle of wine. When that's put to the test, people fail it practically every time.
I could maybe see it happening with this, depending on the materials that the grinder was made out of. Some super cheap appliances might be made out of a toxic material that also spreads a bad odour/taste. The intensity of the grind itself could definitely play a role in flavour too.
I might test this one day, now I'm curious lol
With coffee it’s mainly the consistency of the grind. You want all particles to be the same size. Larger particles take longer to extract than smaller articles, and if it’s uneven you over/under extract parts of the coffee depending on grain size. This affects the flavor of the coffee. E.g. under-extracted is sour, and over-extracted too bitter.
An even grind requires a machine that’s been built with precision components and that’s expensive to make.
Youre absolutely off your rocker if you think a high quailty $200 burr grinder cant make excellent coffee at home.
A professional coffee shop doing mass volumes is pretty much the only reason to buy a $4000 grinder. That's something you get because you pull 1000 shots/day and need spare parts for repairs, because downtime costs you lots of money. Its not for Johnny "2 lattes."
Cheaper equipment does give better coffee, yes.