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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Tyler Durden had the right idea. Project Mayhem is what we need.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll be out of debt by the end of this year. I'll outright own everything that I've been calling mine. So given my luck this will happen just after I pay off everything.

And I'll still celebrate for the same reason I'd celebrate if everyone's student loans in the US were forgiven even though I paid mine off a while ago. Because it's the best thing for all of us.

[–] doingless@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you own a home, do you really own it? Try not paying your property taxes for a bit.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ownership of land is a bullshit concept anyway. The first person to claim it stole it from the commons, and everyone since then has just been pretending it's not stolen.

Or to quote Rousseau:

The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows, "Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tyler Durden's plan would have only been a reset. The system still remains.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But a reset of a faulty system gives times to re-evaluate and makes it at least work again. Temporarily.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's the exact kinda complacency that led to these problems

[–] 0x69@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

What a wonderfully crafted sentence. "Complacency" is a word I've never used, yet it has always struck me as such a slick word to work into conversation. I'll have to be more diligent and work it into my vocabulary going forward.

Lest I become complacent.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say "that's the solution", but a temporary band-aid to ponder about bettering things.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

I hate to say it, but a large number of people are ignorant, or even downright simple enough to be completely satisfied with the bandaid and will stop desiring positive change - leading to the exact same events playing out over again

[–] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

unfortunately the backups are global. and banks have a lot of backups.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But the 10 guys only have one head each

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It would seem logical, that the adaption of that concept to modern times, would also require technical terrorism. Not just physical. And a wider spread. An effort most likely not being possible at all...

[–] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i prefer rebellion to terrorism. just stop obeying. that is all it takes.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depending on the country, that could end worse, could it not? Try that in china. Try that in the USA. In some it might work, but wouldn't change anything because we aren't local anymore.

[–] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah the rebellion needs to be global. but it depends on the ones with access to weapons to also rebel. but imho terrorism only makes things worse.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Usually. And also totally unrealistic on a global scale. Look how futile it usually is locally. Only digitally it could lead to something. But that's also basically impossible.

[–] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

yeah 100% agree with you. but no one really knows what tomorrow brings.

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Tyler Durden was on the right track, but Elliot Alderson took it much further. We'd need both to do it right.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

We're gonna need a lot of kerosene then