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[–] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is my hangup as well.

I agree with the premise of this sub. The way car first places such as the US does things is a problem. The cars themselves and the underlying infrastructure, such as that exchange.

But I also don't want to live in cramped multidweller unit housing. I've done so most of my life and I hated it.

I don't know what or even if there's a good solution that accomodates both, but I hope so.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

You can have walkable areas that aren't all multi unit. This video goes over some existing places that fit.

And if you're someone that wants to live somewhere actually remote, having dense urban areas instead of suburban sprawl will leave more space for rural areas and nature.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am no expert, but if we are allowed to design everything from ground up, I believe personal electric vehicle (e-bike etc, abbreviated as PEV) for suburb, transit/bike/walk in city, and high speed rail between cities are probably the way to go.

City should be mostly car free, people can transit to suburb via transit, and to other city via rail. People move within city using walk/bike/tram. Vehicle besides delivery and commercial vehicle should be discouraged from entering the city, by removing in-city parking and setup no-go zones for private vehicles.

Even in the U.S. most people in suburb live rather close to a town center (less than 15 mins with PEV or bike). Thus efficient transit from town center to city can be a good idea. People will be discouraged from driving to city due to the lack of road and parking within cities.

For long form travel, people should move via high speed rail. Then take local travel options once arrived. High speed rail provide a faster and more comfortable travel alternative to driving.

Finally, I believe for people living in rural areas (an hour to any town center on PEV), cars and electric cars are their only option. If they want to enter city or suburb, they can drive to the nearest town center and take transit.