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YouTube disallowing adblockers, Reddit charging for API usage, Twitter blocking non-registered users. These events happen almost at the same time. Is this one of the effects of the tech bubble burst?

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Companies expect infinite profit growth

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always found this particularly odd. Is it greed, or some sort of business culture that is ingrained?

[–] pentobarbital@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is baked into capitalism. Stocks are attractive to investors because they want to sell them for a higher price later on, and stock prices increase when the company grows.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, thats a requirement for investing into a stocks value. A company can make a healthy flat profit every quarter and its direct benificiaries (investors, stock-holders, directors, owners) will be appropriately accomodated financially via dividends. It doesn't need to be 30% growth year in year out. You start to add stock price, inflation, etc. and it gets complicated. I don't understand it from then on.

[–] pentobarbital@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

My understanding is a little shaky too. I suppose companies are incentivized to target infinite growth so they can get the most money out of the stocks they hold, but this is a culture and greed thing, not a hard requirement.

[–] statue_smudge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not every stock has to be a growth stock, their value can be based on expectations of future dividends.

However, tech stocks are priced assuming growth, so the owners would lose a lot of money if it becomes clear that growth is no longer possible.

[–] pentobarbital@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know about dividends but decided to keep the comment simple. Aren't dividends relevant only in utility and holding companies?

[–] statue_smudge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Kind of, because those sectors are widely known to not be growth-oriented. There is only so much demand for electricity for example.

At one point that was probably a growth sector, but now it is ubiquitous. Perhaps someday some tech stocks could be focused on dividends rather than infinite growth.

[–] Proweruser@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It's just capitalism. It's built on infinite growth.