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Sanders warns Biden: address working-class fears or risk losing to demogogue
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Unless the Trump is held accountable, He will most likely win. People's material needs are important and Dem messaging has basically been hey we showed this graph so you're not struggling and anything popular you want won't happen. But everything bad will happen with the other guy. Being not Trump once again is a dangerous way to win the election. Trump's cultist ass should be getting crushed.
Makes me wonder what might have happened if the DNC hadn't f**ked Bernie over, twice.
Yeah, the DNC f-ing unknowingly gave that blowhard dictator his platform.
Very explicitly knowingly *
*FTFY.
Democrats will suspend the constitution THEMSELVES before they go against our corporate overlords and run someone like Bernie.
Unknowingly? They would rather have Trump than Bernie ruining their two party corruption. The DNC won in 2016.
They didnt care. DNC would rather lose with Hillary/Biden then win with Bernie.
It hurts me to think how much better a position we would be in right now if they hadn't worked so hard to marginalize him.
Imagine how many lives would have been saved on just the pandemic disinformation alone.
And Bernie would have absolutely demolished cheetolini in the debates.
I still remember trying to explain to someone back in my reddit days that many media sources played clips of people saying they are voting for Biden in the primaries because they believe Bernie would lose. The only places saying that were the same media sources.
Unfortunately, the owners of this country don't want that.
(NSFW - language)
Which is why I am a very vocal advocate for eating the rich. They can own all they want inside my belly.
Yesss!
It still blows my mind he wasn't taken into custody for sedition ON Jan 6th.
I think future historians will point to that as a major turning point in our nation's decline.
Taking a sitting president into custody without impeachment when he is not an immediate threat would be a coup, which I imagine would be worse for democracy, though maybe not for america.
Pretty sure the final outcome of letting donny spray tan go with zero consequences is going to be him winning the last election our country ever has, so pardon me if I don't agree with you that taking a sitting president into custody is more of a problem than a legit dictator being allowed to run for office.
No point worrying about Trump desteoying democracy if you destroy it yourself first. Its not like you can't stop an insurrectionist from running for office legally without violating the constitution and laws by taking him into custody.
In a less corrupt world I would say that peaceful protests are a legal way to keep him out of office but we all know cop hypocrisy and the right wing media machine will spin it just like they did for all the George Floyd protests.
i think it's more of a milestone. we haven't actually changed trajectory at all.
As someone active in politics since the late 80s, I can say we have certainly lost a number of our civil liberties, fascists feel emboldened enough to go full masks-off on the floor of Congress, and we just had a fucking soft coup attempt, so yea our trajectory has been on the downward side of parabolic since Ragass Reagan was allowed to ooze into the white house.
Biden really needs to understand how unpopular he is. Not that he will, but I can dream.
I really don't want another run of Trump pardoning psychopaths and doing what he wants. But democracy is basically in the hands of Dems and they scrap by when it comes to connecting with people or even giving them a vision post beating Trump.
The only way Trump is "connecting" with people is by telling them grandiose lies and making impossible promises.
Annoyingly, a shitton of people are willing to go along with those lies without thinking about it or questioning anything.
Sure he's unpopular with progressives and the youth.
Most blue voters are older people more interested in the status quo and in any other country with a sane Overton window would be called conservatives.
And the idealism of youth can easily convince them that a 3rd party vote is a meaningful protest against the DNC's lack of progressive action.
Biden won't win without progressives and youth. Pandering to the center is how you lose. Trump won bc he did not play to the center.
By progressive and youth, you mean millennials, right? Who are as old as.... 40.
I have been pre-emptively severely depressed for this.
It's kinda crazy since, what will the other wlsode do to help? There is a strong history of actively harming everyone but the ultra rich.
It's like being mad at my boss because he isn't telling me how he's going to help me on my career progression, and deciding I'll switch bosses to a corrupt prison guard instead.
The danger isn't dems voting R.
It's poor turnout.
And when poor turnout happens, Republicans win.
Unfortunately the way I see it is Biden will lose for two reasons:
Regardless of policies or how terrible the alternative is. I dont think most people are going to think much past "Things are expensive now, and oh great a super old white dude".
Love how they can blame inflation on Joe Brandon, but they refused to blame 45 for anything for 4 years.
Different types of people. Its a shame Democrats have such an uphill battle to rally around candidates because those voters hold their leaders accountable, almost to a fault. The republican voter base is made of people who are basically in a cult, or are one issue voters.
His first play will be cannabis being decriminalized.
Man I would love to see this, but its one of those things that I will believe when I see. I hope I have to eat my words on that too. Even if so, I dont think decriminalization would mean much to people in terms of getting out to vote. Most people who are really passionate about this over other issues have had the states handle it for them already. Dems waited too long for Federal Decriminalization to be a big motivator in a national election in my opinion.