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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 134 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At least in my state, if your employment is terminated for poor performance, the employer can deny unemployment insurance claims. If you’re just laid off, they must pay out unemployment insurance claims.

By blaming the victim, the company saves money. It’s such scumbaggery.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 53 points 10 months ago (4 children)

At least in my state, if your employment is terminated for poor performance, the employer can deny unemployment insurance claims.

Which in itself is a total bullshit rule. What, so people who are bad at a certain job don't deserve help while they find a job they're better at?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 42 points 10 months ago

There's a lot of good evidence that helping people is pretty un-American.

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's one of the reasons why companies will put on a PIP(performance improvement plan) if they want to fire you. They try to get you to sign something saying you understand and acknowledge that your performance needs to improve.They need to have some sort of paper trail in order for them to be able to deny the unemployment claim. A company can't just say "oh yeah that guy sucked" unless there was a substantial, documented issue like you getting into a physical confrontation with someone

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

Actually making good on insurance claims would defeat the point of insurance, which is to make money off of people in need, i.e. those who can't afford the financial burdens that insurance purports to protect you from.

[–] qbus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Don't you need to be working somewhere for 6 months to get unemployment? She's been there for 4

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it would also have the effect of making the employee less appealing to any potential future employers. When asked in an interview why they left their previous job, these people have to decide whether to say honestly that they were let go because of mismanagement and risk their possible new job on whether the background check includes a call to the HR department of your last employer, or give the line that would match the HR record and say they were fired for poor performance. Either way is going to make it pretty hard to get hired, and so if Cloudflare ever needs to hire again in the future, there's a decent chance these people will still be seeking employment.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I worked at Teledyne and got laid off. The official policy was that they wouldn't give anyone a reference good or bad just confirm that the person worked there. Shit people making shit products. They threatened to not give me any severance unless I agreed to never badmouth the Teledyne corporation on the internet. I took the money.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

The professional workaround is 'are they eligible for rehire'. If you're laid off it's a yes, if not it's a no.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"I took the money."

Uh oh, now you're going to have to give it back for spilling the tea!

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I will get right on that. Maybe I will show up to my ex-manager's manager house and discuss the matter with him. You know on a rainy night near midnight. Is that the proper way to do this?