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If you do, then what exactly defines a soul in your view?

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[–] god@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

atheist faith describes people who BELIEVE that god does not exist

besides the fact that I do exist...

if there is no evidence that god doesn't exist, or that god does exist, then yes, there is no reason to believe god exists, but apart from the absurd and extremely vast absence of evidence that would point towards proving even the slimmest of traces of existence, that is also an epistemological challenge in that our perception is extremely limited and we don't know, as ritswd said, what we don't know.

so we have a lot of evidence, but there exists an extremely small and remote possibility that our theories are wrong, just because we're dumbfucks with very smol brains & tiny eyes that can only see 3 dimensions

so saying with 100% certainty that god does not exist is a dogmatic belief in our conclusions.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

To be clear, it's highly likely that what we consider to be a "god" or a "satan" (as well as physical places we cannot see/reach where these two reside) isn't real, based on evidence that we've come upon today scientifically, but that also doesn't mean there isn't some form of a higher being that we are unable to recognize as such because of our limited abilities that you've explained above.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, it's a logical conclusion. God isn't needed for the existence of the universe and thus doesn't exist. Sure, there's minuscule chance that's wrong and if it ever happens I'll be among the first who'll say I was wrong. Until then, science says God doesn't exist.

[–] god@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right. Just a note

there’s minuscule chance that’s wrong

This is the scientific perspective. All signs point to no. But as always, we might have missed something. I think this is the agnostic perspective, even the "agnostic atheist" perspective. I think, and I might be wrong, that the pure "atheist" perspective is that, beyond a shadow of a doubt, there is no God.

But if there's a tiny retarded chance that for some reason there is something as absurd as a god... lol.

...then that'd be me of course